Smallville: 10x12 "Collateral" - Discussion and Spoilers

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BTW, I finally decided to vote 'Clark Kent' on it this morning. Hope next week ups the ante a wee bit. Of course, at this point, I'm really holding out for 'Masquerade'.

 

[Agent Richard07]

- Run-of-the-mill episode.

- Didn't know Chloe was coming back. I don't read episode synopses anymore. I just show up for the episode and everything I see is a complete surprise. Well, not really. You know what I mean.

- Clark loses his powers again.

- No Tess.

- No Cat.

- Good gymnastics from Chloe.

- Bad fx during Ollie and Chloe's jump from the building. It was funny though. I want to see more stuff like that just for the laffs.

Average.

She will be performing at Clark's bachelor party.

She's the hottest program in TRON

Agreed. We didn't see enough of her in Tron. I knew Serinda Swan was in the movie and while I was watching I thought she was playing Gem. It wasn't until I got home that I found out otherwise.

I guess she's too busy with Breakout Kings to do Smallville.

Found out about that show yesterday. I'll check it out because of her.

If Bruce were on "Smallville" he'd be the one tossing Clark a bachelor party...

No, Ollie is the one to do it. I can't see Bruce doing it. Maybe Christian Bale's Bruce, but not Bruce in general.

How come Steve Martin or Hillary Duff never showed up?

Everytime the cast of Friends ever did a movie, they invited their friends from Hollywood over to play in the small screen.

Hells, if Hilary would do half a season of Gossip girl it's not like she has standards.

I'm still surprised that Jane Seymour did Smallville but refused to do BSG.

I envision the reunion between Chloe and Clark going something like this:


Clark: Chloe, why did you fake your death and vanish?

Chloe: It was necessary, Clark. When I put on the Helmet of Nabu, I saw the future; and twenty years from now, you're still a douche. I had to disappear and manipulate things from behind the scenes, if there's any chance of you ever becoming Superman.

Yeah, I totally didn't see that coming. I love it when they throw in these fresh and clever twists.

I guess I missed one episode before this.

Well, if you saw Hawkman's funeral, then you didn't miss anything. They just didn't pick up from the moment they all passed out in Egypt.

I was a bit confused at first too, but the talk of the funeral settled it.

"They took away my powers.... They could do that to me somehow."

My first thought... Gold Kryptonite, but no, we get VR.

Oliver has no powers to take

But he has archery skills and they want to find out how they work.

Forgot to mention but Black Canary is looking fine tonight! The long hair works for her.

It does, yeah. She looked like TJ from SGU and she wasn't pregnant.

It's Inception for douches...with a touch of Avatar.

I thought Matrix, not Inception.

The Matrix would've ended right away with Clark swallowing the blue pill.

Only because he likes raspberry more than he likes cherry.

So, he didn't pop the cherry?

About fucking time, Kent!

OK, this doesn't count - he's still in the Matrix.

Yeah, it doesn't count. He'll come out of it still unable to fly so he can do it for real.

I like the "real" Chloe here more than I like the creepy, Ellen Degeneres pant-suit wearing Matrixy Chloe.

I liked her in that white suit and I'm almost over your Ellen Degeneres reference. You're not going to ruin it for me!

It would have been funnier if it was Lois flying and carrying him.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Did you not see my earlier post where I said Ollie would throw Clark a bachelor party? The post you quoted was theoretical. You are thinking about a normal depiction of Batman not a Smallville version which Ollie is to a tee, which is why I said it in the first place. Sigh.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Ollie throwing a bachelor party would be 90 dollar steaks ringside to the world heavy weight boxing match in Vegas... But unlike Charlie Sheen who hires pornstars to reinact his favourite movies in his hotel suite (Field of Dreams) I can't see Ollie hiring strippers out of a phone book when they could take the private jet to Bang kok and push Bart into losing his virginity to a shemale, and he can't do that either. he's too been there to go big and too class to go low rent which just leaves...

I do not think Oliver is still the boy you think he is.

Why is Oliver the best man?

He's seen,touched, nuzzled and nursed off Lois' Boobies.

There's a conflict of interest.

Chloe should be the best man, which brings us back to ringside in Vegas.

 

[Jetfire]

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God, you people are like a box of hamsters, just crawling all over each other.

 

[Admiral_Young]

@Agent Richard 07 the conversation regarding Bruce and Ollie stemmed in the first place because of a similar conversation that Guy and I had...his recent post is similar to the previous one.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Enjoy recylced food. Enjoy recycled food.

 

[Nowhere Man]

^Soylent Green?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Judge Dredd.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Did you not see my earlier post where I said Ollie would throw Clark a bachelor party? The post you quoted was theoretical. You are thinking about a normal depiction of Batman not a Smallville version which Ollie is to a tee, which is why I said it in the first place. Sigh.

I read your post and several others again. I agree that Ollie is "Bruce" and therefore Bruce would have done it if he were on the show. I don't remember exactly what I was thinking when I read your post initially, but I do remember being caught up in the earlier assertion that Ollie couldn't do it and I was responding to that. Sorry for the mix-up.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Really not very good. Went CK but that might be generous.

The sad thing is, with a few alterations, this could have been really good. It was the perfect place for the return of little Clark and Chloe for example.

And the whole Chlopheus thing was just silly...

 

[trekkiebaggio]

Oh dear that was awful. First I rolled my eyes when he lost his powers, then again when I found out they were in VR. I'm surprised they didn't call this episode Matrix.

I liked the few minutes towards the end, back at the farm with Clark and Chloe, and then Chloe and Oliver. Hated the conversation between Lois and Clark, its like "Hey audience! Still watching? Yeah don't worry, he's going to fly, we haven't forgotten. Just have a little more patience. It's coming soon. Promise!!"

 

[Guy Gardener]

Who threw Clark his bachelor party in the comics? Oh, Jimmy Olsen.

That must have been tame.

Secret identity to think about, Oliver is out of the closet, do they really have much of a public friendship?

 

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God, you people are like a box of hamsters, just crawling all over each other.

That may be the funniest comment I've read in this entire thread!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Didnt Ollie say they messed with his equilibrium and thats how they took away his "powers"?

 

[Brent]

Did I just watch The Matrix IV ?

Kal

 

[Guy Gardener]

Yup, they made him clumsy and equilibrium probably means "inner ear" which would have messed with his depth perception too, I think.

Why is this episode called collateral?

I do not think this word means what they think it means.

 

[Trekker4747]

Yup, they made him clumsy and equilibrium probably means "inner ear" which would have messed with his depth perception too, I think.

Why is this episode called collateral?

I do not think this word means what they think it means.

Obviously Lois, Ollie and Clark were all being held in the Matriopolis as tangible property that could be withheld should the borrower default on their loan.

Yes. the VRA is in the human pawn brokering business!

 

[O'Dib]

This was just horrible. Chloe reminded me why I hadn't missed her in all this time. Props to the actress for delivering crappy lines without missing so much as a beat. I couldn't even tell she upchucked a little every time. This is how Smallville does character arcs: "By the last episode, Chloe will become thrifty with words, and Clark will fly! No wait, scratch that, we'll keep all that for THE last episode!"