Futures End had me cheering for the villain a bit

[Gojira]

I just watched this episode last week. It is a very good story and Ed Begley and Sarah Silverman do an excellent job. I was very surprised this film was on the Time Travel fan collection! Oh well, I have the season 3 DVD set now.

 

[exodus]

I just watched this episode last week. It is a very good story and Ed Begley and Sarah Silverman do an excellent job. I was very surprised this film was on the Time Travel fan collection! Oh well, I have the season 3 DVD set now.

Yes, Sarah Silverman before the potty mouth.

 

[John Vasiliou]

Not a Sarah Silverman fan...but I liked her in this.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I just watched this episode last week. It is a very good story and Ed Begley and Sarah Silverman do an excellent job. I was very surprised this film was on the Time Travel fan collection! Oh well, I have the season 3 DVD set now.

Yes, Sarah Silverman before the potty mouth.

Somehow I don't think that the blooper reel for Futures End will live up to that assumption.
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[exodus]

I just watched this episode last week. It is a very good story and Ed Begley and Sarah Silverman do an excellent job. I was very surprised this film was on the Time Travel fan collection! Oh well, I have the season 3 DVD set now.

Yes, Sarah Silverman before the potty mouth.

Somehow I don't think that the blooper reel for Futures End will live up to that assumption.
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I'd be pleased if it didn't.

 

[kimc]

Janeway had such a smug attack in the sickbay after they captured Starling. OMG, she was at her most self-righteous, Peggy-Hill-in-space mode ever. "It's over - I've won!" she yelled, like a spoiled little girl in a huff. And the lecture about how much "better" she and people from her era are compared to him? Why was she getting so petty over this? I was laughing and bewildered at the same time. I'm not sure what the writers were going for there, but the result was certainly unique. The people who insist Janeway was always written to be perfect need to watch that scene ASAP.

Funny, when I watched that same scene I thought Starling was the smug, self-righteous one. I was disappointed we never got to see Janeway blow him away with a compression rifle.

 

[exodus]

Janeway had such a smug attack in the sickbay after they captured Starling. OMG, she was at her most self-righteous, Peggy-Hill-in-space mode ever. "It's over - I've won!" she yelled, like a spoiled little girl in a huff. And the lecture about how much "better" she and people from her era are compared to him? Why was she getting so petty over this? I was laughing and bewildered at the same time. I'm not sure what the writers were going for there, but the result was certainly unique. The people who insist Janeway was always written to be perfect need to watch that scene ASAP.

Funny, when I watched that same scene I thought Starling was the smug, self-righteous one.

Smug was the least of his flaws. I'd think being a liar & thief trumped that.

..but how could Janeway ever think she was better than that?

Folks love to be taking stuff out of context just to be hatin' on Janeway. So sad.

 

[Cyke101]

-Likewise, Voyager taking out Braxton's time ship (which was specifically sent to destroy Voyager) makes about as much sense as a wooden pirate ship taking out an F-14 fighter with cannonballs and throwing nets.
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Why not? It was being flown by someone from 1996. In your analogy, the F-14 fighter jet would be being flown by Leonardo Di Vinci. He was a remarkable man for his time, but he would have a hard time with the systems in the jet...

Why not? It was being flown by someone from 1996. In your analogy, the F-14 fighter jet would be being flown by Leonardo Di Vinci. He was a remarkable man for his time, but he would have a hard time with the systems in the jet...

Not to mention that defense systems may have been damaged during the crash. As unbelievably resourceful as we were supposed to believe this guy was, I doubt he could repair such an advanced system. Even the average spaceship from the 24th century could survive a single photon torpedo, so shields must have either been off or damaged.

Why not? It was being flown by someone from 1996. In your analogy, the F-14 fighter jet would be being flown by Leonardo Di Vinci. He was a remarkable man for his time, but he would have a hard time with the systems in the jet...

Not to mention it was being flown by Starling at the time who they had already said didn't fully understand 24th century tech but only bastardized what he did.

.....and the number one answer is: any ship can be destroyed if you don't raise sheilds. Starling never raised the sheilds because he didn't know how. If he did his last words wouldn't have: "Uh-Oh?"

Guys, I was talking about Braxton Vs. Voyager, not Starling Vs. Voyager. 1996 Starling is one thing, but 29th Century Braxton was a time agent with a considerable amount of experience under his belt. I apologize for not clarifying between two book-end events/essentially the rematch, but can we dial down the dogpiling a bit?

Other than that, we got Sarah Silverman (yay!), the Mobile Emitter (yay!), and another visit to the 20th century (yay!).

Oh good, I thought I was weird for loving Sarah Silverman as the guest star. Not everyone seems to like her.

Her dialog was so campy.

Seeing as how adorable she was and how confuzzled she generally was in the episode, I couldn't NOT like her. And her shoulders!

You gotta love a guy from our era getting the better of people from the 24th ,and 29th century.

I actually felt the complete opposite. I got quite pissed off that some primitive nobody from our time was able to get any ground against the crew of a 24th Century starship. A guy from our time with 29th century technology would be like a caveman with a laptop. I just didn't at all buy the fact that this guy was capable of getting into the ship's systems and downloading it all, and stealing the doctor and using the holo-emitter and piloting the timeship.

I must admit, I only cheered once he got his selfish arrogant ass blown up in space.

Well, not a complete nobody -- he's supposed to be Trek's equivalent (or even superior) of Bill Gates or Steve Jobs.


God forbid Trek ever make someone after Mark Zuckerberg!

 

[Guy Gardener]

Barclay with less charisma and sex appeal?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Folks love to be takin stuff out of context just hatin' on Janeway. So sad.

I like Janeway, and that sure as hell wasn't out of context - just a loony moment in an OTT episode.

Janeway has a striek of pettiness and a few obsessive tendancies. She got royally wound up at Starling, and then kicked it all into overdrive in "Year of Hell" and when the USS Equinox showed up. She got so obsessive and single-minded that after Voyager got home, she went back 15 years so they could do it faster. I'm not hating on Janeway any more than saying "Kirk likes to buck authority, shag local women and bring down robotic gods on primitive planets" is hating on him.

 

[Guy Gardener]

"Its CALLED a TRIOCORDER but YOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUU wouldn't know that, because you suck."

Bigger they are harder they fall.

 

[exodus]

Folks love to be takin stuff out of context just hatin' on Janeway. So sad.

I like Janeway, and that sure as hell wasn't out of context - just a loony moment in an OTT episode.

Janeway has a striek of pettiness and a few obsessive tendancies. She got royally wound up at Starling, and then kicked it all into overdrive in "Year of Hell" and when the USS Equinox showed up. She got so obsessive and single-minded that after Voyager got home, she went back 15 years so they could do it faster. I'm not hating on Janeway any more than saying "Kirk likes to buck authority, shag local women and bring down robotic gods on primitive planets" is hating on him.

Then forgive me, it just didn't seem to sound that way.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They were writing her as Ahab to show that she was as cool as Picard.

 

[Lord Manitou]

Yeh, it's really a great thing that Janeway came along and stopped the whole solar system from being blown-up.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You mean after/because she blew it up?

No gold medals for cleaning up your own messes surely.

 

[Gojira]

Yeh, it's really a great thing that Janeway came along and stopped the whole solar system from being blown-up.

all in a day's work!

 

[F. King Daniel]

Then forgive me. It just didn't seem to sound that way.

No problems. I probably could have worded it better.

 

[henbane]

They were writing her as Ahab to show that she was as cool as Picard.

lol - I can think of a lot of words to describe Picard, but "cool" isn't one of them

 

[Willieck]

Love this "episode". It would have made a great Voyager "Movie" with a bit of extra padding, as the story stood out alone enough to have general appeal. Definitely one of my all time ST favourites of any series.