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Space Nazis!

Space Nazis - Good, bad or indifferent?

  • Space Nazis good

    Votes: 22 34.4%
  • Space Nazis bad

    Votes: 36 56.3%
  • Space Nazis indifferent

    Votes: 6 9.4%

  • Total voters
    64
Meh... All fans ever want to do is get pissed off at trivial things and complain. Wah. Wah. Wah.

There was nothing wrong with Space Nazis. It was a way to end season 3 with a cliffhanger and get them to tune in to see what happens. That's what a TV show is supposed to do to keep them interested over the break.

Keeping fans interested and pissing them off are two totally different things. Wah.:p
 
Time helped me appreciate that for the excellence that it was, and made me realize it is indeed the best cliffhanger ever.

I would have to respectfully disagree with you (providing you were serious in the first place). What makes a good cliffhanger is that the ending is unexpected, but at the same time has something to do with the story being told. Look at the cliffhangers for "Best of Both Worlds Pt. I" and "Redemption Pt. I." In both instances, the whole story is being built up for the appearance of Locutus and Sela, respectively. In "Zero Hour," the story is basically concluded, and then all of a sudden some alien space Nazi appears out of nowhere (and no segue at all that all of a sudden, now we're in the past), has nothing to do with the story we've just seen, and basically only exists to awkwardly conclude the TCW thing that nobody really cared about anyway. I mean, c'mon! If they really felt that they had to give the TCW silliness some kind of closure, why didn't they just reveal who FutureGuy was? How about making him a Romulan who's trying to prevent Earth from winning the Earth-Romulan war that would have been a major factor in the series if it had been allowed to continue? Why space Nazis?

Oh yes, I am very much serious this time. And I agree that Space Nazis are rather mismatched with Zero Hour. But in a way that's what worked in their favour. The Xindi arc has come to an exciting conclusion, and then after a brief epilogue, we're in a WWII medical tent, with an alien dressed as a freakin Nazi. It's so unexpected and out of left field, and the endless story possibilities that imagery generates makes this an excellent cliffhanger worthy of being named the best.

Yes, the revelation of Locutus and Riker's order of "fire" is an intense moment, and Sela's identity is certainly a mystery to leave us speculating over the summer, but you just can't beat Space Nazi.
 
Meh... All fans ever want to do is get pissed off at trivial things and complain. Wah. Wah. Wah.

There was nothing wrong with Space Nazis. It was a way to end season 3 with a cliffhanger and get them to tune in to see what happens. That's what a TV show is supposed to do to keep them interested over the break.

Keeping fans interested and pissing them off are two totally different things. Wah.:p
Fans get pissed off about the color of nacelles.
 
Meh... All fans ever want to do is get pissed off at trivial things and complain. Wah. Wah. Wah.

There was nothing wrong with Space Nazis. It was a way to end season 3 with a cliffhanger and get them to tune in to see what happens. That's what a TV show is supposed to do to keep them interested over the break.

Keeping fans interested and pissing them off are two totally different things. Wah.:p
Fans get pissed off about the color of nacelles.

Not this fan.;)
 
Unlike "Space Arabs" or "Space Communists", "Space Nazis" make perfect villains, there's no "Anti-Nazi Defamation League" to protest your movie or TV show..

Everybody hates 'em (except for some racists) and they had the best uniforms..
 
Oh yes, I am very much serious this time. And I agree that Space Nazis are rather mismatched with Zero Hour. But in a way that's what worked in their favour. The Xindi arc has come to an exciting conclusion, and then after a brief epilogue, we're in a WWII medical tent, with an alien dressed as a freakin Nazi. It's so unexpected and out of left field, and the endless story possibilities that imagery generates makes this an excellent cliffhanger worthy of being named the best.

Yes, the revelation of Locutus and Riker's order of "fire" is an intense moment, and Sela's identity is certainly a mystery to leave us speculating over the summer, but you just can't beat Space Nazi.

I very much agree. The only thing that would've made it better was for Enterprise to have been canceled after season three... leaving one hell of a cliffhanger for folks to wrap themselves up in knots over for decades! :lol:
 
Oh yes, I am very much serious this time. And I agree that Space Nazis are rather mismatched with Zero Hour. But in a way that's what worked in their favour. The Xindi arc has come to an exciting conclusion, and then after a brief epilogue, we're in a WWII medical tent, with an alien dressed as a freakin Nazi. It's so unexpected and out of left field, and the endless story possibilities that imagery generates makes this an excellent cliffhanger worthy of being named the best.

Yes, the revelation of Locutus and Riker's order of "fire" is an intense moment, and Sela's identity is certainly a mystery to leave us speculating over the summer, but you just can't beat Space Nazi.

I'm still trying to figure out whether you're serious or not.

I very much agree. The only thing that would've made it better was for Enterprise to have been canceled after season three... leaving one hell of a cliffhanger for folks to wrap themselves up in knots over for decades! :lol:

I doubt the majority of the fanbase at the time would have cared that much. I'd guess that their attitude would have been, "Well, that was a crappy ending to a crappy show. Am I supposed to actually care about this Space Nazi nonsense that I just saw?..."

We still got the crappy ending one season later, but at least it was after the best season ENTERPRISE ever had.
 
Oh yes, I am very much serious this time. And I agree that Space Nazis are rather mismatched with Zero Hour. But in a way that's what worked in their favour. The Xindi arc has come to an exciting conclusion, and then after a brief epilogue, we're in a WWII medical tent, with an alien dressed as a freakin Nazi. It's so unexpected and out of left field, and the endless story possibilities that imagery generates makes this an excellent cliffhanger worthy of being named the best.

Yes, the revelation of Locutus and Riker's order of "fire" is an intense moment, and Sela's identity is certainly a mystery to leave us speculating over the summer, but you just can't beat Space Nazi.

I'm still trying to figure out whether you're serious or not.

Is this the Trek XI forum? No, therefore I'm serious

We still got the crappy ending one season later, but at least it was after the best season ENTERPRISE ever had.

Huh, it's another one of those weird times in which the two of us agree. This is like what, the third out of 0514.

You knew I was going to work that in somehow ;)
 
I like Space Nazi, but I always wonder why they never did Space Soviets. What they should of done was have a traitor on the ship working for the Space Nazis. Its some crewmember's distant family member from the past.
 
The Alien in the Nazi uniform actually killed Enterprise for me. I just could not watch the series anymore. I could not take it seriously.

At the time all of us posting to the BBS were pretty much in agreement that saying that aliens had involvement with the Nazis in World War II was absurd.

Well I think it was a producer who posted at that time and told us that the Nazi's had a deep belief in the occult and claimed that they were being helped by aliens from another planet.

We all thought he was full of it and was trying to defend bad writing.

Now, as it turns out as I have read deeper into history, I found out he was right. The Nazi's DID claim they were being helped by aliens.

Now that I know this, I can watch the episode and it is more believeable.
 
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^^As I remeber the Summer of the Space Nazi didn't quite catch on as much as the Summer of the Sloth did the year before.
 
The Alien in the Nazi uniform actually killed Enterprise for me. I just could not watch the series anymore. I could not take it seriously.

^This. (although I did end up watching some of the three-parters...the Vulcan arc one was probably ENT at its best.)

At the time all of us posting to the BBS were pretty much in agreement that saying that aliens had involvement with the Nazis in World War II was absurd.

Well I think it was a producer who posted at that time and told us that the Nazi's had a deep belief in the occult and claimed that they were being helped by aliens from another planet.

We all thought he was full of it and was trying to defend bad writing.

Now, as it turns out as I have read deeper into history, I found out he was right. The Nazi's DID claim they were being helped by aliens.

Now that I know this, I can watch the episode and it is more believeable.

However, just because it was proven correct doesn't mean that it was a good idea to use it as a cliffhanger than had nothing to do with the rest of the episode.
 
Yes, the revelation of Locutus and Riker's order of "fire" is an intense moment, and Sela's identity is certainly a mystery to leave us speculating over the summer, but you just can't beat Space Nazi.
Maybe if the Space Nazi had been played by Denise Crosby then it would have been a double whammy.

:)
 
After Enterprise had changed format to a season-long arc in season 3, and after the "Zero Hour" cliffhanger and the first part of "Storm Front", I actually thought the entire of season 4 was gonna take place in weirdo WWII:lol:.
 
Space Nazis were on TOS. I love TOS. So ENT being pre-TOS it needs some space Nazis. I liked when ENT emulated TOS. It made me feel warm all over.
 
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