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What do you want out of a sci-fi?

Vincent Law

Lieutenant Commander
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I've seen a lot of sci-fi lately, and I can't help but feel that even in the ones I thought held promise that something was either missing or that the series or movie had taken a wrong turn somewhere. Has anyone else felt this way?

This leads me to the next question: what would you want out of a sci-fi? If something new came out, what would your hopes for it be? What kind of stories interest you? What kind of settings interest you? Do you prefer movies or series?
 
I prefer TV series. I want something with the imagination and strong acting cast of Lost, compelling characters and themes like DS9, a complex but clear integrated plotline like S1 of Heroes, and the style and poetry of The Walking Dead.

And I would like more space opera TV series.
 
I prefer TV series. I want something with the imagination of Lost, compelling characters and themes like DS9, a complex but clear integrated plotline like S1 of Heroes, and the style and poetry of The Walking Dead.


I want naked chicks lol :rofl:


Something like Stargate sg1/farscape for me
 
A great story, nothing related to todays news, something that is complete fiction. Something that will make me think, something to make me laugh, something that isn't dumb.
 
A decent script , high quality writing ( long term story or character arcs are preferred ) , multi dimensional characters ( no "just one function" team members like scientist , warrior sidekick , captain , geeky guy etc. I hate stereotypes ) and decent production values...

In a way what I seek from sci-fi is not much different from what I want in other genres like drama , historical fiction , western etc
 
Quality! Babes don't hurt either.

The most important thing is to have a compelling or interesting story and not to insult the audience's intelligence. I hate it when sci-fi panders to a perceived adolescent demographic.

Different kinds of Sci-fi series can succeed under different terms. What makes Lost interesting isn't the same thing that makes TNG interesting. It has to be smart and well written though.
 
1. Big space battles

2. Unbelievably beautiful women in absurdly sexy costumes

3. Inciteful comments on contemporary society dressed up as imagined alien worlds and depictions of the future
 
For me, the best is when sci-fi makes me think about something in ways I've never before thought.
 
1) Interesting characters who look and sound and are distinct from one another.
2) An interesting story that makes me think.
3) A plan. Let me know that it's going someplace.
4) Humor. Too unrelentingly dark and you've lost me.
5) Good music that serves the story. Ditto special effects.
6) Experimentation. Shake up what I'm expecting every once in a while.

Jan
 
I really like Sci-Fi grounded in the real world ala The X-Files, Buffy, Lost, Heroes, and perhaps Fringe (haven't really watched much). I don't know why, but I really like seeing stuff I know flipped on its head via aliens, vampires, strange islands, superpowers, and alternate universes. I also like Space shows, but nowhere near as much as shows about people who I could meet in the real world going through extraordinary circumstances.
 
It would be nice to see a show set in space again. My guilty pleasure is bug-eyed monsters.
 
In order of importance:

1) Excellent Characters - Everything else can suck, but if the characters are great I'll love it. Sometimes one or two great characters can save an otherwise terrible show.

2) Fantastic mix of comedy/drama - Mixing brutal drama with full-blown wackiness and fourth-wall breaking is the best. Bonus points for doing them both in the same scene. The Walking Dead meets Looney Tunes.

3) Serialized Storytelling - It's very important to me for a show to have a sense of progression to keep things from getting repetitive, but a high quality episodic show can be just as good if done right.

4) High quality theme song. A great theme song can go a long way towards making a a show memorable. I doubt the Power Rangers would have lasted a single season without its kickass theme song.
 
What I DON'T want is another show where the universe itself is a 'mystery' to be solved and the viewer's patience being the key.

LOST
Heros
4400
New BSG
(I never saw 'V' but I'm gonna put it on the list because, eh, probably)

They all think they're a freak'n Twilight Zone episode but stretched out to a year.

Give me another DS9, please, where we understand the universe, we're TOLD what's happening, and it's the conflict between the characters fighting for what they want that's the actual drama.

But apparently that's not the way sci-fi is made any more.

(And to clarify, shows like the X-Files don't fall on that list because it was about characters learning things through their actions. That's drama. The shows I'm talking about are all about the viewer slowly learning things even when the characters often don't.)
 
Babes don't hurt either.

I hate it when sci-fi panders to a perceived adolescent demographic.

No wonder TV people can't produce anything worthwhile, with contradictory instructions like that. :rommie:
 
I might as well be honest and admit that when a show has no hot guys at all (Fringe and Dollhouse for example), it has to be daaaamn good to make up the difference. Fortunately, TV people are on the ball enough that there is almost always one passably hot guy in the main cast.
 
I was just thinking about how disappointed I was with the series Code Geass. I wanted to like it because it had an interesting alternate history story to tell. A young man wanted to destroy the empire he was actually a member of, though for selfish reasons. He was a brilliant tactician, and he took on the role of a mysterious leader figure for resistance. He also lead a double life, constantly being threatened with being uncovered. Unfortunately the show tended to focus too much on the high school portion of this character's double life, because yes, he and many of the other characters were high school students. And, as is often the case with anime, giant mechas also became something of a focus. Then the first season ended at a point where the main character would no longer be able to lead his double life and his true identity was exposed to at least two people. This after a tragedy which successfully pulled at my heart strings. Then the second season started by essentially doing everything over again, using some of the most complicated contrivances I have ever seen in any story.

There are so many shows like that for me, which seem to have some promise, yet ultimately disappoint me. The Battlestar Galactica reboot is another example.

So, that is why I am somewhat interested in what others think, because I'm not entirely sure myself what I am looking for, so I do not even entirely know why a show may ultimately disappoint me.

Some things which have interested me, though, have been some alternate histories, elaborate planning toward some pay-off, two warring cultures or nations which are being manipulated by a third party, resistance fighting against a power aristocratic empire, apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic stories, steampunk, and cyberpunk. Actually two of the best shows I can think of are Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. Then, of course, there is the series my namesake comes from, Ergo Proxy, but this is also an example of a series I found not entirely satisfying.
 
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