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The Ambassadors of Death (Pertwee)

Just saw "Terror of the Autons". Wow, what a difference! The introduction of the Master and Jo Grant, but more than that, the story is tighter, faster, more action packed, more interesting... Also the production values looked a lot better too, not as embarrassing as Pertwee's first season. This is the kind of 3rd Doctor story I remember as a kid!

Interesting: Terror of the Autons is the sort of Pertwee I loved as a kid... and was immensely disappointed by when I saw it again as a teenager. Whereas I loved season seven when I saw it at 17, and still do on each rewatching.
 
I think the reason that season 8 (Or the "Master season") hasn't gotten many DVDS is because they require a ton of restoration work.
 
As one of the few who actually loves Liz Shaw and first-season Pertwee, Ambassadors of Death is the one remaining story we're waiting for. Liz, while not "conventionally" beautiful, is IMO quite attractive and the best actress the Pertwee era had--and I LOVE Lis Sladen. I liked Liz's banter with the Brigadier and how she was actually competent, unlike the "three steps backward" Jo Grant, whom I like a lot, as well.

Not conventionally beautiful! Have you seen those legs!?

Liz tends to wear go-go boots in the episodes she's in, so I'm in favor of Miss Shaw...;)
 
Home sick today so I saw "Mind of Evil", which was pretty boring, and "Claws of Axos", which was decent. I thought the Axosians (?) looked really cool with the gold eyes.

I don't have memories of Delgado-Master, I'm surprised how evil and dark he is. I'm used to the Peter Davidson Master who's kind of laughing and silly.
 
Home sick today so I saw "Mind of Evil", which was pretty boring, and "Claws of Axos", which was decent. I thought the Axosians (?) looked really cool with the gold eyes.

I don't have memories of Delgado-Master, I'm surprised how evil and dark he is. I'm used to the Peter Davidson Master who's kind of laughing and silly.

We are definitely never going to agree on this, Mr Light: Mind of Evil is in my top five Pertwees (who couldn't love the Master reading the paper in his limo, or being terrified by a nightmare of the Doctor, or Jo being competant for once?), whereas I reckon Claws of Axos is easily the worst - nice ideas, but badly edited and so on (which, oddly, Barry Letts agreed with when we talked about it just after the VHS release, though he did insist you had to see it as something that was worth trying at the time, even if it didn't hold up).
Oh, and I do agree that Delgado is superb: very dark and even brutal sometimes, yet so charming you can't help but like him.
 
Axos is terrible - one of only two DVD releases I haven't bothered buying yet. Twin Dilemma is the other.
 
Axos wasn't bad.

Twin Dilemma was okay, but the editing was terrible. I kept yelling at the tv "WHO CARES ABOUT THOSE DAMN KIDS? GO BACK TO THE DOCTOR!"
 
The Twin Dilemma was terrible especially coming right after Caves Of Androzani. Although it's amazing what Kevin McNally has done with he career since then, the Pirates Of The Caribbean wouldn't be the same without him.
 
Just saw "Curse of the Peladon". On paper it sounds like an interesting story but the aliens were just so hilariously bad, particularly the Alpha Centurion (?). Y'know the huge green phallus with veins all over it. With a high girly voice. That hops when it talks. Classic.
 
Aww c'mon, Alpha Centauri's so bad he's cool!

Just one of those things (like the Dinosaurs in Invasion of the Dinosaurs) that you just have shut your critical eye and run with.
I always gave that story props for having the Ice Warriors NOT be the villains for once.
 
Ambassadors is easily my absolute favourite Doctor Who story ever. I'm just saying.

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The Ice Warriors first appeared in the Troughton era in two stories as villains, and then the two Peladon serials. They've been mentioned a few times since (In the new series here and there), and there were plans to bring them back at some point during the JNT era, but so far their recent stories have been limited to novels, comics and audios.

They originally hail from Mars, although there is some implications that they move to another planet at some point. The novels attempt to tie together all the martian stuff in the series, especially in "Godengine". (Of course that was before the Christmas Invasion and Water of Mars both dealt with Mars-but the Ice warriors are sort of mentioned in both.)


Some have said that the Ice Lord-played by the same actor in the stories-bears a resemblance to Darth Vader-the cape, the raspy deep voice, red eyes, the helmet shape and shoulder armor etc. but they probably stem from the same Samurai/flash gordon influence....
 
They got mentioned in The Waters of Mars, but if you're like me then you might not have been awake enough to notice.
 
Watching Ambassadors of Death now, gone through 6 episodes on YouTube. Back and forth from Color to Black and White, is there a DVD release for this one and does it do that too?

I like it, took me several episodes before I remembered the story at all, I think I must've missed several episodes when I watched it on PBS years ago, because most of it, still doesn't ring a bell, I just remember the Radioactive Astronauts, no memory of how it ends, which, I hope is a good thing
 
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