That completely works. I never, ever say I'm "from" the city I was born in - I have no memory of having lived there, but lived for twenty years in the place that my parents moved to within a couple of months. The latter is "where I'm from."
Surely the alternate timeline begins before Nero arrives?
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That completely works. I never, ever say I'm "from" the city I was born in - I have no memory of having lived there, but lived for twenty years in the place that my parents moved to within a couple of months. The latter is "where I'm from."
It's not my fault that you couldn't enjoy the film for what it was instead of nitpicking insignificant details. I'm just trying to help you enjoy it better.
It's not my fault that you couldn't enjoy the film for what it was instead of nitpicking insignificant details. I'm just trying to help you enjoy it better.
There's this thing inside my head, called my brain. Whenever I watch this movie it makes my brain hurt. And it isn't just the Star Trek parts that make it hurt... it's the coincidence on top of coincidence that the story is built on and the repetitive scenes we see throughout. Not to mention the plot holes and total lapses in common sense.
But I did like the cast, which gives me hope that maybe something good will come out of the sequel.
There's this thing inside my head, called my brain. Whenever I watch this movie it makes my brain hurt. And it isn't just the Star Trek parts that make it hurt... it's the coincidence on top of coincidence that the story is built on and the repetitive scenes we see throughout. Not to mention the plot holes and total lapses in common sense.
Well, I can't help your brain. I'm sorry the film was such a hardship for you to agonize through. Maybe you'd be happier with a marathon of TFF, followed by Nemesis?
Entertainment doesn't make my brain hurt; it's not that easily taxed.
Well, I can't help that. I'm sorry the film was such a hardship for you to agonize through. Maybe you'd be happier with a marathon of TFF, followed by Nemesis?
Honestly, their isn't much difference between this film and Nemesis. YMMV.
What I don't see is how this movie is different than the other ten. It seem to be perfectly fine to analyize, examine and discusss all the movies except this one in some fans eyes, why?nitpicking insignificant details.
Okay, we all get it, you personally liked the film, but you seem to extend this liking to the point no one can discuss it without being belittled.
An overgeneralization at best. I can't stand this kind of nitpicking; the Trek movies I don't like, I just don't like on a general level.
I'm sorry, you must have missed it when I said this earlier in this thread:
Any sense you have of being personally belittled is your own issue.
All the Trek films seem to entertain me on some level... even Star Trek 2009. I think it's fun to break the films (and TV series) down into what works and what doesn't. YMMV.
Not exactly sure what this proves...
I'm saying that I don't care whether or not someone loves or hates the new movie (or any Trek movie, for that matter), and I'm not personally "belittling" anyone if they didn't like it. But like Dennis said, if you're going to nitpick the film to death over silly little things like the name of a planet, be prepared to be called out on it. Because, you know, that's what people do on a Trek BBS. They argue.
But it's nothing personal.
But it's nothing personal.
Yep, we're pretty much a bunch of Tellarites :P
You do realise that energy costs of moving a planet from point A to point B in an imaginery universe, are only about 20% of what they would be in a real universe?
Its not that easy. You can't just claim to be anally retentive. The writers obviously went parsecs out of their way to give everyone who aspires to that exalted title an opportunity to walk the talk and you are just going to spurn their efforts?
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Captain: Helmsman, plot a course to Delta Vega!
After a few hours.....
Captain: Helm...I ordered you tp plot a course for Delta Vega! Where the hell are we?!?!?
Helmsman: We are at Delta Vega sir.
Captain: DAMN!! Wrong one Turn the effing ship around and go back to the other one, but obviously we'll be too late!
Old and tired for some, but on the other hand there is quite a few, that includes myself, that don't think that way.
There's this thing inside my head, called my brain. Whenever I watch this movie it makes my brain hurt. And it isn't just the Star Trek parts that make it hurt... it's the coincidence on top of coincidence that the story is built on and the repetitive scenes we see throughout. Not to mention the plot holes and total lapses in common sense.
Well, I can't help your brain. I'm sorry the film was such a hardship for you to agonize through. Maybe you'd be happier with a marathon of TFF, followed by Nemesis?
I would prefer those movies to this drivel....
Maybe Delta Vega isn't a planet given it's proximity to Vulcan, just a moon that exists in the NuTimeline but didn't exist in the Prime Universe. So in the Prime Universe there's a Vulcan with no moon, and in the NuTimeline there's a moon with no Vulcan.
The "prime" Vulcan can't even decide if it's got moons, a sister planet with moons ("Yesteryear", the first two versions of TMP, all the old novels and manuals) or if it's got no moons or sister planet at all (TOS, TNG).
Saying Delta Vega is proof of a totally seperate timeline (which contradicts the movie, which says "back in time" and "new chain of incidents, beginning with the attack on the USS Kelvin") is hardly definitive.
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