That's your opinion. I hate it. All the new FX and the new cut are ruining it for me. I think the SLV is the best version out there. It has lot of character moments that the TC is missing.
The Motion Picture - I remembered it differently...
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That's your opinion. I hate it. All the new FX and the new cut are ruining it for me. I think the SLV is the best version out there. It has lot of character moments that the TC is missing.
There's certainly multiple versions, but most of them are from when the film was released (the workprint is a very early cut that was sneak previewed, the theatrical cut is self-evident, and the international cut is the version that was released in theatres outside of North America).
The only new versions are The Director's Cut (1992) and The Final Cut (2007), which was only made because Ridley Scott wasn't actually involved in the "Director's Cut."
I don't see a new version of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE emerging anytime soon, especially since Robert Wise put his stamp of approval on The Director's Edition (2001).
How about the new 3D Blueray Fanwank Director's Homage Edition? I want those character scenes back!
<Fanwank Comment> I think they should re-master the movie to include some of the TNG and DS9 characters. Maybe they could re-cast Patrick Stewart as Lt. Ilia? They could also create a hybrid Constitution/Galaxy class starship, both welded together? </Fanwank Comment>
I think the movie is just fine as it was originally paced and presented.
I think the movie is just fine as it was originally paced and presented.
It was fine - that doesn't mean it couldn't be improved upon. I'd pay to see Patrick Stewart make out with Stephen Collins but the bath robe might be a bit too much (or too little).
Part of the problem for TMP, even the DE version, is that folks today aren't accustomed to that form of film making anymore. Most everything today is paced faster, sometimes much faster, and many don't have the patience anymore to sit for a story to unfold in its own way.
Candidly in some respects films felt more natural and believable then. I often don't buy into many of the hyperactive films of today.
Candidly in some respects films felt more natural and believable then. I often don't buy into many of the hyperactive films of today.
Really? That seems like a rather generalized blanket statement to me. Sure, movies are faster now a days, and shorter. But that doesn't mean people can't appreciate older movies.
Personally I like TMP. It's a great story, and other then one or two dated science concepts (falling into a black hole and emerging somewhere else) I think the script itself hold up rather well.
As for the filming itself, it's really just the V'Ger approach that throws it off to me. It's a very well done scene, and the score is great and all. Plus I realize that it's as long as it is to show how freakishly HUGE the V'Ger ship is. I simply think (and this is only my opinion, I speak for no one else's) that it could have done just as well being half as long. Sitting there staring at the view screen for that long broke up the flow of the movie as bad as leaving it out entirely would from my perspective.
Personally I like TMP. It's a great story, and other then one or two dated science concepts (falling into a black hole and emerging somewhere else) I think the script itself hold up rather well.
As for the filming itself, it's really just the V'Ger approach that throws it off to me. It's a very well done scene, and the score is great and all. Plus I realize that it's as long as it is to show how freakishly HUGE the V'Ger ship is. I simply think (and this is only my opinion, I speak for no one else's) that it could have done just as well being half as long. Sitting there staring at the view screen for that long broke up the flow of the movie as bad as leaving it out entirely would from my perspective.
^^ Sure there are younger people today who enjoy older films--I've known some--but candidly I don't think it's a majority.
And in all fairness TMP is a roller coaster compared to films like 2001: A Space Odyssey and more particularly Blade Runner. I just can't sit through Blade Runner. It's a film with interesting ideas, but it is soo damned slow.
And in all fairness TMP is a roller coaster compared to films like 2001: A Space Odyssey and more particularly Blade Runner. I just can't sit through Blade Runner. It's a film with interesting ideas, but it is soo damned slow.
For me the length of the flyover did more then give it's size but we also got to see it up close and see something exotic. The novel explains some of what we were seeing was a result of incredible technology, not just for the size but for the structure. Same with the inside.
As a boy, I saw it the Friday night of December 7th 1979 with friends and the biggest awe of the film both then and now is the on screen appearance of the refit Constitution Class 1701. It did deliver a sense of the operations on board and the awesome size of a starship.
As a boy, I saw it the Friday night of December 7th 1979 with friends and the biggest awe of the film both then and now is the on screen appearance of the refit Constitution Class 1701. It did deliver a sense of the operations on board and the awesome size of a starship.
And the very first time I saw it I got the same sense of "OMGWTF!THATISCOOL!"
But the years to follow (I try to go through all the shows and movies about once a year) it just seemed to get longer and longer.
I like to think my attention span has increased over the years, but meh, perha-Oh, A kitty!
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It's kinda like the "All the odd numbered films suck" theory(here's a hint:Only a couple DO!). It's just become one of those tropes ST fans like to parrot to sound cool and hip.
THAT aint true, either.
I usually find those people complaining about TMP being "the most boringest" are usually like Plinkett says - aged around thirteen with the attention spans of mosquitoes.
It's an epic, wonderful film and like none of the other TREK films. I am very glad it exists. Most thinking adults really like it.
My mom would have been in her mid forties if she were still with us, and she thought TMP was slow. She, like myself, did still like it, but she could acknowledge when she didn't like something about it.
So THAT theory doesn't work either.
Absolutely my words.
I remember seeing this review of TMP on YouTube by some guy, trashing the overture and Enterprise flyby because there's "only music". The flyby probably being my favorite scene of the movie, I'm seriously worried about that guy's understanding of Trek.
It seems some people tend to forget that TMP is the first time we hear Goldsmith's beautiful soundtrack and main titles, which pretty much work as the whole franchise's theme.
TMP was my introduction into the world of Star Trek. I first saw it when I was ten and though I probably didn't get much of it back then, I consider it my favorite of the series still.
As a boy, I saw it the Friday night of December 7th 1979 with friends and the biggest awe of the film both then and now is the on screen appearance of the refit Constitution Class 1701. It did deliver a sense of the operations on board and the awesome size of a starship.
Dude, you took the words right outta my mouth! I felt the same way seeing for the first time in 1979 (December 23, in my case - the film didn't debut in Cleveland until two weeks later, for some unknown reason). And I felt the same way again this eveing, watching the theatrical version on BD (right at the moment, I'm at the scene where they discover what V'Ger really is). As much as I love the DE and they way that the newer FX matched with the original material, this movie never looked so crisp and sharp. As noted on one online review I read, the colors no longer seem muted, but far more vibrant than I recall from either the theater, VHS or the DE.
I'm having a fuckin' nerdgasm over here. This is still my favorite Trek movie, despite it's minor faults. And it's nice to find there's others who appreciate it the same way I do.
As a boy, I saw it the Friday night of December 7th 1979 with friends and the biggest awe of the film both then and now is the on screen appearance of the refit Constitution Class 1701. It did deliver a sense of the operations on board and the awesome size of a starship.
Dude, you took the words right outta my mouth! I felt the same way seeing for the first time in 1979 (December 23, in my case - the film didn't debut in Cleveland until two weeks later, for some unknown reason). And I felt the same way again this eveing, watching the theatrical version on BD (right at the moment, I'm at the scene where they discover what V'Ger really is). As much as I love the DE and they way that the newer FX matched with the original material, this movie never looked so crisp and sharp. As noted on one online review I read, the colors no longer seem muted, but far more vibrant than I recall from either the theater, VHS or the DE.
I'm having a fuckin' nerdgasm over here. This is still my favorite Trek movie, despite it's minor faults. And it's nice to find there's others who appreciate it the same way I do.
Agree, once we experienced TMP, there is no going back. It was in 1979 a milestone that still holds up.
