1,014?
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Why would that be a problem? They can transport modules in and out.
Saquist
Commodore
No...well...I don't think it would be that easy.
I can't assume they used "modules" which I think would actually be compartments..
In order for these to work as you say these compartments would have to be air-locked connections and separate from the Jefferies system. The structural connections couldn't be welds because the Transporter couldn't define the module from the rest of the ship. Not to mention the space tolerances for the modules within in the hull would seem to itself to be a waste of space and then there is the torsional stresses on the mounts for those individual mounts against the rest of the ship....
It's not impossible...
But that the kind of work that's done for transports it's a whole lot of extra trouble for ship whose primary purpose isn't cargo transport.
I can't assume they used "modules" which I think would actually be compartments..
In order for these to work as you say these compartments would have to be air-locked connections and separate from the Jefferies system. The structural connections couldn't be welds because the Transporter couldn't define the module from the rest of the ship. Not to mention the space tolerances for the modules within in the hull would seem to itself to be a waste of space and then there is the torsional stresses on the mounts for those individual mounts against the rest of the ship....
It's not impossible...
But that the kind of work that's done for transports it's a whole lot of extra trouble for ship whose primary purpose isn't cargo transport.
Those sound like "acceptable losses" for a ship that's otherwise so lavishly built and equipped.
Indeed, if one looks at the Sternbach blueprints, the crew cabins at least indeed appear to be modules dropped in place, not always completely seamlessly - because that's how Sternbach created the blueprints.
For real-world examples, I could go to the harbor here and refer to a largish minelayer we also use for training (and for the occasional pirate hunt in the Indian Ocean). The minelaying system is based on pallets and containers, and it's almost trivially simple to yank out the mines and install barracks containers instead, to accommodate the trainees, or the hot-weather facilities for the crew on the longer voyages. Some amphibious attack ships for European colonial powers are also built like that.
Timo Saloniemi
What I want to know is how many of the 1,014 crew members are whales?
Counting Riker?
I'd say at least two.
Which probably comes from the third-season episode, The Ensigns of Command.
Those sound like "acceptable losses" for a ship that's otherwise so lavishly built and equipped.
Indeed, if one looks at the Sternbach blueprints, the crew cabins at least indeed appear to be modules dropped in place, not always completely seamlessly - because that's how Sternbach created the blueprints.
Well yes. I can't say for sure (and don't have my copy to check), but I swear the TNG Tech Manual had a bit explaining how the various rooms in the saucer where bolted on to the frame of the ship, so they could be removed and changed with relative ease.
Directly from the Tech Manual (pg. 152).
"Each person aboard the Enterprise is assigned approximately 110 square meters of personal living space. These accommodations typically include a bedroom, living/work area, and a small bathroom. Families may request that their living quarters be combined to create a single larger dwelling. Living quarters decks are designed to be modular with movable walls to permit reconfiguration for such requests as crew load and structure change."
It goes on to say that individuals assigned to the Enterprise for periods more than six months are permitted to reconfigure their quarters within hardward, mass and volume limits.
"Each person aboard the Enterprise is assigned approximately 110 square meters of personal living space. These accommodations typically include a bedroom, living/work area, and a small bathroom. Families may request that their living quarters be combined to create a single larger dwelling. Living quarters decks are designed to be modular with movable walls to permit reconfiguration for such requests as crew load and structure change."
It goes on to say that individuals assigned to the Enterprise for periods more than six months are permitted to reconfigure their quarters within hardward, mass and volume limits.
See I knew I wasn't crazy. I did recall that the interior spaces were modular to a degree.
RAMA
We had a thread (http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=78161) about starship crew compositions over in Tech last year, and Tigger posted his take on a Galaxy Class crew roster:
A bit obviously 20th century US Navy for my tastes. We never hear of a "Chief of Staff" on a Starfleet ship, and I doubt supply is a particularly big concern for a ship with replicators and a warp core. Assuming they are topped up with deuterium and antimatter, which wouldn't be too hard to keep tabs on, they are pretty much sorted. Yeomen seemed to have gone the way of the Commodore, and terms like "hanger" and "air group" are very anomalous in a TNG setting.
I always got the impression the Enterprise-D was less hidebound by military structure than a modern aircraft carrier. Obviously there is a chain of command, but it's more flexible, and since every Stafleet officer happens to be a super-genius, they cut each other some slack. It's more down to the predilections of the individual captain too - Picard initially seems a bit of a martinet, at least compared with Riker's previous CO, but they all quickly mellow after the second season. So much so that when Jellico turns up in Chain of Command, Riker seems to have forgotten how to follow basic orders...
I always got the impression the Enterprise-D was less hidebound by military structure than a modern aircraft carrier. Obviously there is a chain of command, but it's more flexible, and since every Stafleet officer happens to be a super-genius, they cut each other some slack. It's more down to the predilections of the individual captain too - Picard initially seems a bit of a martinet, at least compared with Riker's previous CO, but they all quickly mellow after the second season. So much so that when Jellico turns up in Chain of Command, Riker seems to have forgotten how to follow basic orders...
Saquist
Commodore
I agree on all counts.
But there are chiefs I think from what I heard of that Jellico episode. But the whole idea is like you said more easy going..
Nope. A modern US supercarrier is roughly the size of the original Constitution Class, and was indeed probably used to scale the ship. The Galaxy Class has about 20 times the volume of a Connie.
Didn't the ensigns in Lower Decks share quarters?
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