Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV!

[Temis the Vorta]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

A show about badass US Marshals, starring Peter Dinklage?

I could buy Dinklage as a badass. He'd just use his smarts a little more than average. But yeah, too many damn cop shows. Even Alcatraz is now a cop show. Why!

 

[Gaith]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

A cop show? What madness is this? Next thing you know they'll have shows featuring doctors and lawyers.

I know you're only kidding, but please don't tease me with wild hopes such as those. It isn't kind.

 

[DeafPoet]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

I'm going to give this a miss and hold out hope that CBS will finally grace us with another CSI spinoff. I tried watching other cop shows like The Wire and all they did was hurt my head. Sometimes a character would do something without first explaining exactly why. And get this: there were episodes where you don't find out whodunit! Moreover, sometimes there was no "it" at all! Sloppy writing.

Maybe this new Eliza Dushku show will be the kind of TV I'm told I love. Maybe it will be the kind I'm now sure I hate. One thing's for sure: I'm not willing to find out.

And I'll hold that opinion firmly until Entertainment Tonight tells me I don't!

 

[Skywalker]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

But wait, it gets stupider: the lead will be played by Eliza Dushku. Yeah, that one. The 5'5 one. For shit's sake, TNT! I've never been in a fight in my life, but I'm still almost certain I could take her. Even a flabby-ass criminal with no self-defense training whatsoever could doubtless own her.

I'm reminded of the scene in Dollhouse where Echo (Dushku) went toe-to-toe with the character played by Tahmoh Penikett, a trained FBI agent who was like a foot taller than Echo was and outweighed her by about a hundred pounds, and she won.

 

[the G-man]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

But wait, it gets stupider: the lead will be played by Eliza Dushku. Yeah, that one. The 5'5 one. For shit's sake, TNT! I've never been in a fight in my life, but I'm still almost certain I could take her. Even a flabby-ass criminal with no self-defense training whatsoever could doubtless own her.

I've seen 5'5" female cops in real life, some of whom were fairly slender.

 

[JoeZhang]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

But wait, it gets stupider: the lead will be played by Eliza Dushku. Yeah, that one. The 5'5 one. For shit's sake, TNT! I've never been in a fight in my life, but I'm still almost certain I could take her. Even a flabby-ass criminal with no self-defense training whatsoever could doubtless own her.

I've seen 5'5" female cops in real life, some of whom were fairly slender.

I spend a lot of time doing observation and riding with cops, and I don't encounter many 5"5" ones tackling 6"5" crack-heads who out-weight them by at least 100 pounds. Even the slender ones have more muscle on them than the weedy looking model types they have on cop-shows. It's not so much the difference between the two but the fact that they show them throwing these big guys around like they are made of paper.

Anyone remember the short-lifed Eleventh Hour? the cop in that was tiny and they used to show her throwing people around like she was superhuman.

Having said that, the thing that bugs me more about cop-shows and things like CSI in particular are the clothes. You'd think these people were going to work on Wall Street! I particular like how in CSI, the women will wear expensive trouser-suits to check out a blood-spattered crime scene.

 

[Trekker4747]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Former co-worker of mine is very slight, tiny, if she weighs 100 lbs soaking wet I'd be surprised. She's about 5-foot tall and very little muscle mass on her. She's training to work for the FBI and has easily passed her physical exams and training.

Being small doesn't mean you're weak. It just means you've got try that much harder to use weight and physics to your advantage.

 

[the G-man]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Having said that, the thing that bugs me more about cop-shows and things like CSI in particular are the clothes. You'd think these people were going to work on Wall Street! I particular like how in CSI, the women will wear expensive trouser-suits to check out a blood-spattered crime scene.

Yep. Not to mention the fact that, as pleasant as it to look at, no professional would show as much cleavage as Marg Helgenberger or Khandi Alexander. If nothing else, the male cops would constantly be tripping over the evidence trying to sneak a peek.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

It's tv. For the most part they want to show attractive people showing skin. It's entertainment not a documentary. Cops on tv also behave in ways that would get them suspended or fired so fast they wouldn't make it past the first 13 episode orders.

 

[Gaith]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Yeah, I've got no problem with lady-cop cleavage. There are few enough reasons to waste one's life on such dull and dreary programming as is.

 

[Harvey]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

But wait, it gets stupider: the lead will be played by Eliza Dushku. Yeah, that one. The 5'5 one. For shit's sake, TNT! I've never been in a fight in my life, but I'm still almost certain I could take her. Even a flabby-ass criminal with no self-defense training whatsoever could doubtless own her.

Well, if it was a realistic cop show, physical stature would be irrelevant, since any cop who gets into fights beyond the extremely rare case is doing something wrong, and probably wouldn't last very long in the job.

And, if it isn't a realistic cop show, then who cares? If they can't be bothered to get the details of the profession right, is a skinny girl kicking ass all that more annoying?

 

[RoJoHen]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Eliza Dushku...

is a skinny girl kicking ass

That's what she's best at, and she keeps getting work. I say good for her!

 

[Gaith]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

[And, if it isn't a realistic cop show, then who cares? If they can't be bothered to get the details of the profession right, is a skinny girl kicking ass all that more annoying?

By that logic, the fridge-nuking sequence in Indy 4 wasn't at all annoying, because real archeologists never find supernatural artifacts.

PM me if you wanna pizza roll.

 

[Trekker4747]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Not quite the same thing as it's all about scale and scope.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Now if only, if just only we could have more LAw & Order, 'cause we don't got nearly enough of that. Also, we need more re-runs!


And godamnit -- there's just nearly not enough spin-offs of C.S.I.; please, we need more of that.

One of the most overrated actresses out there. She got a show only because of her fame in the Whedonverse. At least, that's how I see it. I'm strongly guessing Joss does not see it that way.








Typical episode of "Law & Order: Some Kind of victim's Unit":

DOONG DOONG

Two trash men on the back of a truck are stopping in/at an alley to pick up bags. They're making casual chit-chat. Stumble upon the dead body; a young lady.
Garbage Collector #1: "Jesus!"

LAW & ORDER THEME MUSIC


DOONG DOONG

Two of the detectives are hovering over the dead body, possibly in the winter time holding coffee.
Lead Guiy #1: "Hey, check out the dead body, it [inappropriate joke about the dead body]."

Lead Guy #2: "Geez, that's some dead body."

DRAMATIC MUSIC

DOONG DOONG

Next scene...

 

[Nerys Myk]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Wow, people complaining about 5'5" women taking down a 6'5" man,the number of (fill in genre here) shows on TV and now spin offs!!!! Its about time is all I can say. People tend to ignore these things when posting on the internet. Now if only someone can tackle remakes and reboots. No one ever talks enough about those.

 

[Aragorn]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Don't forget the witness with the photographic memory that can tell the cops every detail they need to know despite only talking to the victim for about 20 seconds in a setting with 400 other people, who must have people dying around him/her all the time if they're too busy to stop working or feel queasy about even the notion of a murder.

 

[Trekker4747]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

Yes! The murderer DID have a small, oddly-shaped ear-piercing hole in his left ear at the very top just under his Jewish curly-tendril! It had a slight infection because it was reddish with a little pit of yellow puss developing around the corner!

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

[And, if it isn't a realistic cop show, then who cares? If they can't be bothered to get the details of the profession right, is a skinny girl kicking ass all that more annoying?

By that logic, the fridge-nuking sequence in Indy 4 wasn't at all annoying, because real archeologists never find supernatural artifacts.

PM me if you wanna pizza roll.

Eh, I'm also indifferent to the fridge scene, but I think we've gone down that path before.

If a cop show tries to sell itself as gritty and realistic, then it's a problem. If it doesn't, I care far less.

 

[Harvey]

Re: Our days of misery and pain are ending: a cop show is coming to TV

By that logic, the fridge-nuking sequence in Indy 4 wasn't at all annoying, because real archeologists never find supernatural artifacts.

That scene didn't bother me that much, no. Less because Indy doesn't represent archeologists (though he doesn't), and more because the Indiana Jones movies have been based on implausible movie physics and implausibly survivable stunts since day one.

As Alidar put it, as long as they don't try and sell this show as some sort of realism, who cares? The conventions you complain about are certainly not unique to this cop show.

Of course, either way, I won't be watching it. If you're a cop show, and you aren't committed to realism (THE WIRE) or to developing a batch of really interesting characters (HOMICIDE: LIFE ON THE STREET), then you aren't worth my time. Okay, MIDSOMER MURDERS is damned appealing, but so are many British police shows. Must be the accents.

PM me if you wanna pizza roll.

After finals, maybe.