1,014?

[Saquist]

I don't believe the Galaxy was Long Range Explorer.
You don't put that much space on a ship to service exploration.
With the ships amenities I think it was designed to service the Federation Colonies and Border Worlds.

It was given sufficient power to challenge most threats on it's own.
Capacity to resupply the out lying stations and Personnel.

How many times did Enterprise leave fascinating phenomenon behind to a dedicated science vessel?

 

[MikeS]

How many times did Enterprise leave fascinating phenomenon behind to a dedicated science vessel?

Interesting question.

 

[JarodRussell]

It was mentioned several times (mostly in the first season) that the Enterprise and the other Galaxy class starships are supposed to chart instellar space at the boundaries of Federation space. So yes, they are Long Range Explorers.

 

[Timo]

...Of course, one of the Galaxies might have been set aside for an atypical mission, the one that goes with the title UFP Flagship. And that mission might involve no exploration other than that which happens by chance.

Or perhaps all Galaxies were recalled when "Encounter at Farpoint" proved that Gods didn't want Starfleet to go out there?

Tikmo Saloniemi

 

[Saquist]

It was mentioned several times (mostly in the first season) that the Enterprise and the other Galaxy class starships are supposed to chart instellar space at the boundaries of Federation space. So yes, they are Long Range Explorers.

Perhaps but you don't need that many people for Space Exploration so it's duties are more than just exploration. I think that's obvious...

That's what the Luna Class is for...long range exploration beyond the Federation Border...way beyond. Enterprise always stayed close to Federation Space.

 

[BillJ]

Perhaps but you don't need that many people for Space Exploration so it's duties are more than just exploration. I think that's obvious...

That's what the Luna Class is for...long range exploration beyond the Federation Border...way beyond. Enterprise always stayed close to Federation Space.

I think the Galaxy class was intended to be a long range explorer. Why pack all the comforts of home aboard, if home is right around the corner?

I think there is a bit of disconnect between between the creation of the series and what was actually seen on screen.

 

[Gil T.Azell]

the size of the crew quarters would make a difference, and I think the USS George Washington is a bit bigger is it not?

 

[Forbin]

I think there is a bit of disconnect between between the creation of the series and what was actually seen on screen.

This. The intent of the design and the show was for long range exploration, away from home for a decade or so. What we ended up getting from the writers didn't turn out as Gene originally planned.

 

[Shon T'Hara]

Another issue is, why was the Enterprise always carrying exactly 1014 people? I remember the old Nitpicker's Guide pointing to several episodes where the exact same figure was given even though we know there'd been several deaths and births in between -- how likely is it that births and transfers balance mission fatalities exactly?

 

[Saquist]

Perhaps but you don't need that many people for Space Exploration so it's duties are more than just exploration. I think that's obvious...

That's what the Luna Class is for...long range exploration beyond the Federation Border...way beyond. Enterprise always stayed close to Federation Space.

I think the Galaxy class was intended to be a long range explorer. Why pack all the comforts of home aboard, if home is right around the corner?

I think there is a bit of disconnect between between the creation of the series and what was actually seen on screen.

It doesn't explain the massive amount of space per person for a long range explorer

 

[RAMA]

Why did the D have such a small compliment?

I was just reading that the USS George Washington, a modern carrier has a crew of 6,000.

Seems like the D would be closer to this figure?

Actual crew was far less than that, that number included families. The Aircraft carrier total you mention also includes the flight wing and support, which the E-D has far less of.

I would think that a 24th century ship would be even more automated, and might only need a crew of 100-150 even for a ship 700 meters long. They only had a complement that size to tell stories with.

The actual trend in the 20th century was to shrink crew sizes. Most modern ships have much smaller complements than ships from the 50s or 40s.

Ticonderoga class cruiser: 400 men
Alaska class WWII: up to 2250 men
Atlanta Class WWII: 670

RAMA

 

[BillJ]

It doesn't explain the massive amount of space per person for a long range explorer

Sure it does. This was a vessel designed to be in deep-space for years at a time, away from any type of rest or repair facilities. You can't pack them in like sardines for that extended period of time.

 

[Saquist]

It doesn't explain the massive amount of space per person for a long range explorer

Sure it does. This was a vessel designed to be in deep-space for years at a time, away from any type of rest or repair facilities. You can't pack them in like sardines for that extended period of time.

Dude...it's 5 times the amount of space that one person would need per square foot. There is no reason why an exploration vessel would need a thousand people and no reason why they'd each need a very spacious house allotment for quarters.

 

[RAMA]

It doesn't explain the massive amount of space per person for a long range explorer

Sure it does. This was a vessel designed to be in deep-space for years at a time, away from any type of rest or repair facilities. You can't pack them in like sardines for that extended period of time.

Or the fact that the ship needs to be adaptable for rescue, colonization, and for potential families. These ships were very modular, I'm sure they could swap out whole sections if necessary depending on the mission.

RAMA

 

[Saquist]

It doesn't explain the massive amount of space per person for a long range explorer

Sure it does. This was a vessel designed to be in deep-space for years at a time, away from any type of rest or repair facilities. You can't pack them in like sardines for that extended period of time.

Or the fact that the ship needs to be adaptable for rescue, colonization, and for potential families. These ships were very modular, I'm sure they could swap out whole sections if necessary depending on the mission.

RAMA

The Galaxy is modular in for Engines and Saucer. Those are standard components. It's not a modular construction. I'm sure though it can be modifed before construction as many carriers are other purposes.

 

[RAMA]

Sure it does. This was a vessel designed to be in deep-space for years at a time, away from any type of rest or repair facilities. You can't pack them in like sardines for that extended period of time.

Or the fact that the ship needs to be adaptable for rescue, colonization, and for potential families. These ships were very modular, I'm sure they could swap out whole sections if necessary depending on the mission.

RAMA

The Galaxy is modular in for Engines and Saucer. Those are standard components. It's not a modular construction. I'm sure though it can be modifed before construction as many carriers are other purposes.

At the very least, I know I've read even 23rd century starships likely had swappable bridge modules, and so I am assuming (without looking at the manual) that other parts of the ship are too.

RAMA

 

[YARN]

Because Gene Roddenberry said "he didn't have the money" to pay for all the extras that he thought would be needed if the ship had 3,000 crew like Andy Probert suggested it would have.

And think of all the extras he had to pay to act as inhabitants of all those planets. If you have millions and billions per planet... ....the numbers boggle the mind!

If we are talking imaginary numbers, then we have imaginary extras (we just - per force- suppose they are off in other parts of the ship). They are "imaginary" people, and so may be portrayed by "imaginary" extras who work for free.

NOTE: OK, sarcasm off.

If you are talking about the number of people who would (apparently) need to be seen roaming the hallways to support the larger #, then you have a fair point.

You comment just struck me funny because scale in Star Trek is always dodgy. It's not like 99% of the viewing audience would really care whether the official number was 4,000 or 1,000 -- what matters is that it is a pretty big ship with a pretty big crew. Moreover, it is science fiction -- it's not like any of this data conflicts with our own lived experience. If they say that have a crew of X in their world, then OK -- that's what they've got.

 

[Saquist]

Or the fact that the ship needs to be adaptable for rescue, colonization, and for potential families. These ships were very modular, I'm sure they could swap out whole sections if necessary depending on the mission.

RAMA

The Galaxy is modular in for Engines and Saucer. Those are standard components. It's not a modular construction. I'm sure though it can be modifed before construction as many carriers are other purposes.

At the very least, I know I've read even 23rd century starships likely had swappable bridge modules, and so I am assuming (without looking at the manual) that other parts of the ship are too.

RAMA

Well sure...the bridge module and the Captain's Yacht but nowhere else...The hull is seamless except for those obvious separation planes at the pylons, saucer, bridge and yacht. I personally think it's a shame the Nebula couldn't accommodate saucer separation in the same way Galaxy does so that they may be truly modular.

 

[Hober Mallow]

What I want to know is how many of the 1,014 crew members are whales?

 

[Timo]

I personally think it's a shame the Nebula couldn't accommodate saucer separation in the same way Galaxy does

Why not? The only difference we need to believe in is that the Nebula saucer doesn't lose a little "bite" out of its aft rim when separating. Otherwise, everything else could be as in the Galaxy; it just happens that the stardrive section has downturned rather than upturned engine pylons plus that dorsal fin with a mission pod on it.

Okay, so the Nebula saucer has different impulse engines, too (several varieties of them, depending on the model). But that need not translate into any functional differences.

Timo Saloniemi