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USS ENTERPRISE HAYNES OWNERS MANUAL (Part 3)

But we want them to be BIG, and of quality... don't cut corners or half-arse anything... just respect us, and the fact that we supported Trek for so long, and give us something good.

And... the fans demand that they be allowed to buy those wonderful, high-end coffee table books at half price or less, on a remaindered table, where absolutely no royalties pass on to the author. :rommie: :guffaw:
 
No, I'd be willing to actually pay a high price for such a book, IF, as I said, it were of such quality.

And if your comment was an attempted jab at me, I would point out that I reserved BOTH books new, from Amazon when I got them, so I paid full price and the authors got their royalites, thank you very much.
 
But we want them to be BIG, and of quality... don't cut corners or half-arse anything... just respect us, and the fact that we supported Trek for so long, and give us something good.

And... the fans demand that they be allowed to buy those wonderful, high-end coffee table books at half price or less, on a remaindered table, where absolutely no royalties pass on to the author. :rommie: :guffaw:

They don't even know what price the fans would be willing to pay since they never released a really good book. And that Ships of the Line thing was horrible, I agree with that.
 
The TNG tech manual was the last one I've bought. Yes, I wouldn't mind something along the lines of an updated version of the FJ tech manual.
 
The TNG Technical manual was the single best Trek tech book I've ever owned, and then the 1701-D blueprints, though that's not a book. The DS9 book was good, but I actually preferred the non-color TNG book.
 
I originally wanted a DS9 tech manual, but I never got around to getting one. Now the only copies available are quite pricey from what I've seen. And now I don't feel that strongly about it anymore.

It would be interesting to see an updated FJ style tech manual because in it he lists many things that were never added in a followup edition, if that had ever even been considered. As is it wouldn't really be that hard to update the material he did include to something more authentic looking in detail. In a way my Starfleet Command Library idea (albeit online) was conceived along that approach.
 
Well I bought the book and have mixed feelings about it. One thing was I would have liked more on the Refit/A, perhaps even given them separate entries. Another thing was a general inconsistancy with the nature of the info. Apart from the NX-01 and NCC-1701 for instance, all the other ships didn't have bridge cutaways. And the Engine Room cutaway for the NCC1701 was only for the Season One set, not the arguably definitiver Season Two set. It would have been nice if whatever was put in one, would be in another. I know that the B and C couldn't really be covered extensively but the others have all had sufficient on screen exposure to provide the necessary material.
I think what I would like to see would be Dorling Kindersley produce I cutaways book akin to the Star Wars Cross Sections, possibly using the same team. Whether or not they go for a different volume for each Trek series or possibly each era with one volume covering the 22nd & 23rd centuries ie Ent, TOS & St I-VI plus the Enterprise B and volume two covering TNG, DS9, VOY & STVII-X, possibly with a section on the Abramverse, I'm not sure. But whichever way I envisage three or even four page gatefold cutaways of the ship eg. NCC1701 with a key and with references on the key to additional pages showing cutaways of the Bridge, Engineering etc. I'd pay real money for that. What do you all think?
 
^^ You're essentially describing what a lot of us are criticizing: that it's a half-assed, unfinished effort. Maybe those who put it together think they did a good job, but it's quite apparent they didn't.
 
The TNG Tech Manual was from 1991. The DS9 Manual from 1998. I personal prefer the brightly colored 3D-illustration-heavy DS9 manual to the line-art-and-flow-chart-filled TNG manual. I get enough flow charts at work.
 
I originally wanted a DS9 tech manual, but I never got around to getting one. Now the only copies available are quite pricey from what I've seen. And now I don't feel that strongly about it anymore.

I just checked Amazon, and... dang! New copies starting at $119.99, and used copies starting at $58.95. The book is good, but not that good. Amazing.
 
Yeah I mentioned that I would have preferred a DK style Star Trek Visual Guide way back in part two of the thread I think.
 
I've got two copies of FJ's tech manual. The first is an original issue "hardcover" and the second is a more recent Ballantine reissue softcover to refer to when need be.

...I've just gotten an urge to get it off the shelf and browse through it.
 
I wouldn't say it would be absolutely impossible for fans to produce such a work. But I think the biggest hurdle would be that of consensus amongst contributors on points of divergence.

One point of contention? A forward facing bridge versus an offset bridge on the TOS :D

Oh, that's easy. Include the common variations on those points of contention as different variants of the (Starship/Constitution)-class, (Such as the bridge, main power systems, bowling alley, size, etc) and make the work about said class in general, as opposed to the Enterprise, specifically. The site could even be presented as the "Constitution-class Development project" or something like that, so that every technical write-up/illustration is presented as in-universe conjectural design.
 
^^ Okay. But which one is the TOS Enterprise? Forward facing or off-centre? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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