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The Return of MSPaint...

Here's an alternate ventral lifeboat configuration. I'm not sure it's really a problem, from a technical or functional standpoint, as the Galaxy-class also had at least one bank of lifeboats situated directly forward of the main deflector. I also like having lifeboat access running parallel to the long axis of the ship.


~Belisarius
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"All life is struggle, from first breath to last."
- Anonymous
 
As promised, erifah...an alternate (traditional) nacelle configuration.
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I still like 'em down.

:p


~Belisarius
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"All life is struggle, from first breath to last."
- Anonymous
 
...And a VFX test of the unaltered design.
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~Belisarius
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"All life is struggle, from first breath to last."
- Anonymous
 
MadMan1701A said:
Wow.

How in the world did you do all of this with just MS Paint?

:)
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Well, to be fair...the "vfx" stuff was enhanced in Adobe After Effects. The warp engine field grills, impulse engines, and bussard collectors. But the rest was done entirely in the Windows 7 version of MSPaint, which (thank God) has some transparent selection features previous versions did not. I'll confess a little secret, though...I only drew half of this ship. Every view or perspective you see is half original, half duplication. If I had tried to draw the whole damn thing and match it up by eye...I'd never have finished it. Basically, I draw outlines, then slowly add detail. Then I use copy and paste to very carefully mirror all the elements, keeping them to scale as much as possible. By copying and pasting vertically and horizontally, and by using free-form selection and basic transparency, I save myself a helluva lot of work. The hardest part, honestly, was getting the damn viewports to look right. Well, that and keeping all the views to scale. I had to do that by eye, though I did use some guidelines (you can see them in a few early updates).

So I guess the best answer to how I did it all in MSPaint would be, "very carefully."

:)

And good news, folks. A friend of mine might be turning this design into a 3D model. I'm totally out of my league in that department, so we'll see if he has time to tackle the project. Fingers crossed!


~Belisarius
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"All life is struggle, from first breath to last."
- Anonymous
 
Awesome. :) That makes sense... but I'm so attached to Photoshop, that It'd kill me not to have everything in multiple layers. :)

Looking forward to the 3D model. :)
 
Thanks for the comments, everyone. Really appreciated. I'll be posting a list of hard specs for the ship class soon (still doing Mk. I eyebawl comparisons to try to get a sense of her dimensions).

Small, yet disappointing, update...my friend won't be able to build a 3D model anytime soon. However, I'm already looking for alternatives, so all hope is not lost.


~Belisarius
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"All life is struggle, from first breath to last."
- Anonymous
 
Okay, folks. Here are some preliminary specs for this ship class. A few categories are still a bit fuzzy, but I think I've gotten it pretty close.


Legacy-class Starship Design Specifications

Production Facility: Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars (Drafting Rooms 5-8)

Type: Explorer

Length (Overall): 660m (Saucer: 410m)

Beam: 215m

Draft (Overall): 80m (Saucer: 42m)

Displacement: 3,145,000 metric tons

Cargo Capacity: 52,420 metric tons

Number of Decks: 22 total, 20 habitable

Accommodation: 810 (standard crew complement), 10,800 (maximum emergency capacity)

Propulsion:
(1) Primary M/ARA Mk. III dilithium-regulated M/AM (D/AD) Reactor
(1) Secondary M/ARA Mk. IIB dilithium-regulated M/AM Saucer Section Reactor
(3) Impulse Drive Engines (2 saucer section, 1 engineering section)

Fuel Replenishment: Bussard Ramscoop Collectors, Resupply Access Bays 1-5

Performance:
Warp 7 normal cruise
Warp 9.975 maximum cruise
Warp 9.995 maximum rated (estimate)
Warp 5 Separated Saucer maximum cruise
Warp 6 Separated Saucer maximum rated (estimate)

Weaponry:
(1) Type XIIC "Edge" Phaser Array (195° firing arc)
(6) Type XII Phaser Arrays
(16) Retracting Point-Defense CIWS Arrays
(4) Burst-Fire (Rotary Loading-Type) Torpedo Launchers (2 forward, 2 aft)

Defenses: Regenerative Shields, Ablative Outer Hull Plating

Auxiliary vessels: At least 24 auxiliary craft stored in three shuttlebays (2 multi-aperture bays in engineering section)
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~Belisarius
---------------------------
"All life is struggle, from first breath to last."
- Anonymous
 
Belisarius said:
Okay, folks. Here are some preliminary specs for this ship class. A few categories are still a bit fuzzy, but I think I've gotten it pretty close.


Legacy-class Starship Design Specifications

Production Facility: Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars (Drafting Rooms 5-8)

Type: Explorer

Length (Overall): 660m (Saucer: 410m)

Beam: 215m

Draft (Overall): 80m (Saucer: 42m)

Displacement: 3,145,000 metric tons

Cargo Capacity: 52,420 metric tons

Number of Decks: 22 total, 20 habitable

Accommodation: 810 (standard crew complement), 10,800 (maximum emergency capacity)

Propulsion:
(1) Primary M/ARA Mk. III dilithium-regulated M/AM (D/AD) Reactor
(1) Secondary M/ARA Mk. IIB dilithium-regulated M/AM Saucer Section Reactor
(3) Impulse Drive Engines (2 saucer section, 1 engineering section)

Fuel Replenishment: Bussard Ramscoop Collectors, Resupply Access Bays 1-5

Performance:
Warp 7 normal cruise
Warp 9.975 maximum cruise
Warp 9.995 maximum rated (estimate)
Warp 5 Separated Saucer maximum cruise
Warp 6 Separated Saucer maximum rated (estimate)

Weaponry:
(1) Type XIIC "Edge" Phaser Array (195° firing arc)
(6) Type XII Phaser Arrays
(16) Retracting Point-Defense CIWS Arrays
(4) Burst-Fire (Rotary Loading-Type) Torpedo Launchers (2 forward, 2 aft)

Defenses: Regenerative Shields, Ablative Outer Hull Plating

Auxiliary vessels: At least 24 auxiliary craft stored in three shuttlebays (2 multi-aperture bays in engineering section)
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~Belisarius
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"All life is struggle, from first breath to last."
- Anonymous
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Well now I've gotta ask, where is the warp field grid for the saucer section, and where exactly is the separation plane?

Oh, and call me ignorant, but what is "beam"? :confused: I could never figure it out...
 
Sorry, Tom. I should have drawn up a schematic of the unique saucer features when we first discussed them a few pages ago. Do you see the eight panels on the dorsal surface of the saucer, second "ring," above the outermost escape pod clusters? (They have small notch-like greeblies on 'em.) Those are blow-out hull panels concealing warp engine field grills. The secondary propulsion system is a backup system only, with a longitudinally-mounted M/AM reactor. There's a secondary engineering crew charged with maintaining the system in a dormant state, and the whole setup is simplified to the point that it can be brought to full power very quickly when needed (the tradeoff being limited warp capability, as you can see in the list of specs). I don't like the idea of the saucer not being warp capable when separated...but I like the idea of giving it visible nacelles even less.

As for the separation plane...that's where this ship will differ from previous designs. The separation plane runs from the second (outermost) bold "line" just below the bridge, down along the red hull surfaces, and terminates at the juncture of the saucer and engineering hulls right beside the impulse engines. However, when separated, the main bridge remains with the engineering section, instead of the saucer section. The saucer's "battle bridge" is more appropriate to its comparitively limited capabilities, in my opinion.

"Beam" is the drafting term describing the width of the ship from left-to-right (or right-to-left, take your pick).

I'll work up a quick view of the saucer with all this stuff outlined in red, just in case I haven't been very clear. It's not the easiest thing to describe with words.

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I've also decided to revise the total crew complement to 780, standard.


~Belisarius
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"All life is struggle, from first breath to last."
- Anonymous
 
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I absolutely LOVE what you planned in for the saucer warp field grids. :D

And the idea of the MAIN bridge staying with the BATTLE section makes perfect sense IMO. Sending the families and whatnot away wouldn't need the main command center to oversee.

You've put a lot of thinking into this. :bolian:
 
Those protruding ridges that sit on the underside of the saucer are the one bit of this design I have never liked. I would have ended them a lot sooner, not going much past the level of the bridge. Theyre too thin and oddly shaped to add strength or justify windows and rooms. They look even more extraneous with the saucer removed, leaving them out on their own.
 
I think the standalone engineering section actually looks somewhat, hmm, "cooler" than the complete ship :D
 
I think the standalone engineering section actually looks somewhat, hmm, "cooler" than the complete ship :D
 
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