Movie Blurays: Pros and Cons
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My mind's completed mangled now - Cheapjack's repeated his mantra so many times it's like a perverse form of NLP torture:
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's... etc.
We must stay strong my friends, no matter how many times he says it - IT'S NOT TRUE.
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's
Cheapjack says look at screencaps
Cheapjack says they're hyper-enchanced DVD's... etc.
We must stay strong my friends, no matter how many times he says it - IT'S NOT TRUE.
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Howcome it was you lot that pointed me to the fact that Bill shatner wore a wig in the TOS, which he probably did, and you can't see this? Unless you were all his make up assistants and are now 96.
And lokai, you have a really appropriate avatar. I haven't repeated the same mantra. I just go on computers with different screen sizes and use the zoom button on my DVD player. I will go and look for the maths algorithm that does it, if you want.
And lokai, you have a really appropriate avatar. I haven't repeated the same mantra. I just go on computers with different screen sizes and use the zoom button on my DVD player. I will go and look for the maths algorithm that does it, if you want.
I meant it in a (humorous) and general way - you have pretty much repeated the same basic argument several times in this thread.
What's my avatar got to do with this, and OK, I'll bite, why is it appropriate?
Actually, I don't think there is anything to worry about. The point is, as anyone who has used the 'zoom' button on a DVD player knows, is, that it is possible to upscale, but only to a limited extent. I don't think they will just keep on upscaling, when this ultra high def comes out. They'll go back to film. My maths stops at hyperbolic sines, but I have heard of 'line of best fit' and I do know some statistics and have heard of Fourier Analysis and I know it is possible to reduce a waveform to an equation and predict data points, too,given a few reference points, to a limited extent, but you can only predict generalities and you can't go on predicting finer and finer data points. That's what's going on here, I think.
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Do you notice when you hit the "zoom" button on your TV or DVD remote that the "zoomed" video looks like grainy shit?
Also this is not upscaling.
Also this is not upscaling.
Come on Trekker. Lighten up, and don't be so hard on the guy. He has his 1000 line Apple monitor with jpgs, and an unemployed friend to back him up. Besides, he thinks it's predicting generalities and using Fourier analysis. Not to mention those websites that he can't remember. Don't forget those, they are very important. It's not really his fault that he can't tell the difference between Blu-Ray, DVD and the DVD Zoom button. It's all an upscaley thingamajig!!!
Upscaling is just a basic thing that all computers can do, on Iphones, on Laptops on DVD players. It happens all the time, converting between formats and as you all know, there are about fifty of them, not twelve, as I said. Look at that Nasa site I referenced. Even my unemployed bar mate, with five pints of bitter inside him, could see what they can do with photos nowadays. As I said, they have, according to one website put in edge sharpening techniques too. Look up upscaling on the internet and see the math. Satellites do image processing and enhancement. NASA have been able to do it since the 60's. You can enhance an image to show what may only be partially there in the original, it's just limited that's all. That's what they've done here, I guess and so do others on the net.
And, I've given links to NASA sites, trek Core and other film screencap sites.
And, I've given links to NASA sites, trek Core and other film screencap sites.
You seem to like that word "guess" quite a bit. That's a lot of guessing, and accusing other posters of altering the images they have shown...including myself.
How about you show some proof? I don't care what you claim to have linked to in the past. If you are so certain, please provide some links to websites, reviews or forums that claim or show that it is simply an upscaled DVD.
It's time to put up or shut up.
Go to the Nasa website, and they can enhance numberplates and read them, to a limited extent,as you very well know. NASA have been enhancing pictures for years.
I've given evidence after evidence after evidence. Is it likely they would say, 'hey, these are just processed images'? Would they? Everything that has every been sold is packaged as 100% genuine, or magically restored, when it is obvious the original is degraded. Look at those other screencaps. Press the zoom button on your DVD, look at the NASA website.
I bet they will rerelease them, originated from film, use some other new, named technique, that will enhance them even more, and you lot will all whoop over what they can do with pictures nowadays and the wonder of computers.
I'll be buying them anyway. I want the Man Trap on 525 line, so I can see it the way it was originally transmitted.
I've given evidence after evidence after evidence. Is it likely they would say, 'hey, these are just processed images'? Would they? Everything that has every been sold is packaged as 100% genuine, or magically restored, when it is obvious the original is degraded. Look at those other screencaps. Press the zoom button on your DVD, look at the NASA website.
I bet they will rerelease them, originated from film, use some other new, named technique, that will enhance them even more, and you lot will all whoop over what they can do with pictures nowadays and the wonder of computers.
I'll be buying them anyway. I want the Man Trap on 525 line, so I can see it the way it was originally transmitted.
Cheapjack, you still haven't provided that alogorithm you mentioned, and I'm still interested to know why you feel my avatar is appropriate.
You should watch the episode, to find out why the avatar is appropriate.
Google 'image processing'. Google 'upscaling algorithm'. Look at the photos. I only have maths to differential calculus and I did work with a program called SPSS once, that was a big statistics program in the 90's.
I know enough to see that what they are talking about seems genuine, very genuine, and I have the photos on the NASA website and my own recolourised photos as a bit a physical evidence of what those algorithms result in, if you put them appropriately in a computer.
Can't do much more than that, apart from do the OU physics degree that I have always wanted to do and come back in 6 years time.
When I did my Kings College London interview, 24 years ago, they had a computer screen, linked up to a satellite, and it was enhancing a picture of Saturn or Jupiter, even as I spoke to the guide.
But, don't believe me.
Google 'image processing'. Google 'upscaling algorithm'. Look at the photos. I only have maths to differential calculus and I did work with a program called SPSS once, that was a big statistics program in the 90's.
I know enough to see that what they are talking about seems genuine, very genuine, and I have the photos on the NASA website and my own recolourised photos as a bit a physical evidence of what those algorithms result in, if you put them appropriately in a computer.
Can't do much more than that, apart from do the OU physics degree that I have always wanted to do and come back in 6 years time.
When I did my Kings College London interview, 24 years ago, they had a computer screen, linked up to a satellite, and it was enhancing a picture of Saturn or Jupiter, even as I spoke to the guide.
But, don't believe me.
Oh, I have watched it many, many times - umm, on Blu-ray recently. I seem to lack the required intellect to decipher your cryptic and no doubt savvy and shrewd response, so perhaps you could enlighten me with a direct and unambiguous exposition.
So. No real links? Nothing from a review or a website or a discussion about the Blu-ray? If you know enough to tell us to google it, then you have obviously done so yourself. Go back and google it yourself again and provide us with links or pictures to what you are mentioning. If you know the maths and you have worked with programs surely you know how to provide a link or show images.
I'd heard that Star trek was like a religion, but this is like being tortured.
And, to think, i'll fall on my knees when I finally get to the smithsonian and see TOS enterprise.
For God's sake, look go back through my posts, look at Trek Core, look at other film screencaps, look at the NASA link, look up image processing and upscaling algorithm.Press the zoom button on your DVD player, but make sure you haven't had a drink first.
Then, ask for a rerelease. I would, but I haven't got bluray yet.
And, to think, i'll fall on my knees when I finally get to the smithsonian and see TOS enterprise.
For God's sake, look go back through my posts, look at Trek Core, look at other film screencaps, look at the NASA link, look up image processing and upscaling algorithm.Press the zoom button on your DVD player, but make sure you haven't had a drink first.
Then, ask for a rerelease. I would, but I haven't got bluray yet.
Ah. So you ARE talking out of your ass. Good to know.
