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NFL Talk - 2010-11 Season

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Garrett's still calling the plays and Dave Campo is the defensive coordinator, so it's not like anything's going to change this year (outside of Garrett proving that he's not a head coach).

I feel bad for Phillips; in terms of Xs and Os and running a defense, he's one of the best coordinators the game has ever seen. He's just an absolutely terrible head coach.
 
Timby said:
Oh, great, the annual overtime debate. I was wondering when this was going to come up.

Statistically speaking, the scenario of "team A wins the coin toss, receives the ball and scores to win the game, while team B never touches the ball" only happens around 30 percent of the time. I don't see it as a glaring hole in the NFL's rules (and there are plenty of more important things for the competition committee to focus upon at the moment). Football is played on both sides of the ball; if your defense can't hack it well enough to give the offense a chance, your team probably didn't deserve to win that game.
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What harm would there be in just playing out the full 15:00 and then calling the game a win or a tie?
 
Timby said:
Garrett's still calling the plays and Dave Campo is the defensive coordinator, so it's not like anything's going to change this year (outside of Garrett proving that he's not a head coach).

I feel bad for Phillips; in terms of Xs and Os and running a defense, he's one of the best coordinators the game has ever seen. He's just an absolutely terrible head coach.
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I think Wade saw the train coming... but was too slow to act.

By the second or third week everyone knew this team had massive issues with penalties and blown assignments. Week two or three Phillips should have promoted someone to defensive coordinator and began dealing with the real issues troubling this team (a lack of discipline), which weren't X's and O's related.

Which begs the question: If Garrett is going to continue as offensive coordinator (the offense continues to have massive issues as well), who is going to deal with the discipline issues?

Of course, it may have been problematic promoting someone because the entire coaching staff budget was pretty much blown on keeping Jason "Seven Points" Garrett around at $3 million annually.

ProFootballTalk.com reports that Paul Pasqualoni has taken over as defensive coordinator.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/08/paul-pasqualoni-takes-over-cowboys-defense/

As a Miami Dolphins fan all I can say is... have fun! :guffaw:
 
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Garak said:
How is he going to motivate a team that's completely given up? That game yesterday was an embarrassment to football.
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I loved every single excruciatingly delicious moment.
You script that kind of drama. To go from 11-5 to this...mess is the very meaning of sensational.
 
Yuck. I see my other favorite, morally upstanding quarterback from Pennsylvania is playing tonight. :rolleyes: At least no one is talking about his "inspirational" story like they did on my local sports radio with Michael Vick during my lunch break. I thought I'd heave.

Count me in as another who detests sudden death overtime. If they insist on keeping it, they should eliminate the field goal option. That would make it much more palatable.
 
Current overtime is fine. If anything just scrap it and award ties. Then the standings would actually better reflect what happens in games, there'd be fewer scenarios where you're using things other than record for tie breaks for playoff seeding as well.

One good idea I've heard would be that you'd have the coaches 'bid' (ya know, like name that tune, I can name that song in 4 notes!) on starting field position. Whoever is willing to take the crappiest field position would get the ball starting there. I don't know if I like taking the field goals out of the equation, but it might be kind of fun. Additionally you could just say no punting either, you have to convert on 4th down or lose possession. That would make the bidding riskier and lead to starting positions closer to midfield.
 
Dorian Thompson said:
Count me in as another who detests sudden death overtime. If they insist on keeping it, they should eliminate the field goal option. That would make it much more palatable.
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I agree that something just doesn't feel right about NFL overtime. College rules are much more fun, and seem on the surface to be more fair.

But to make that case, that overtime is not fair until each offense has had the same number of possessions, wouldn't you have to make the same argument for regulation? Teams do not have an equal number possessions in regulation for a variety of reasons (onside kicks, safeties, end of the half, turnovers on kickoffs, etc.).

Those circumstances arise from the playing of the game, though. Not a coin toss.

I don't know. I can see it both ways.
 
I'm of the opinion both teams need at least one touch of the ball. But that means that if you fail to score, the other team can go back and win the game. The coin flip doesn't determine it and defenses are important to stop things. It also allows a team to consider taking a risk to score a touchdown rather than risk giving up a field goal on the other end.

I actually also have problems with the College OT system. It's far more convoluted than it needs to be. I also hate how they count all those touchdowns like they were real touchdowns, so the final score is much higher than it really was.
 
Which is weird, since sudden death is usually pretty exciting. Still, an interception returned for a touchdown in overtime is one of the most thrilling ways for a game to end.
 
By the way...

Half way through the season, and The Rams are in first place in the NFC West.

:techman:

:lol:
 
Alidar Jarok said:
Which is weird, since sudden death is usually pretty exciting. Still, an interception returned for a touchdown in overtime is one of the most thrilling ways for a game to end.
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That's exciting, but I get bored seeing teams go at it for another 15 minutes. And then if it ends in a tie after that, I'm kinda pissed. :lol:
 
Really, the way I see it, just play the full 15 minutes and then call the game wherever it stands. This whole "play until someone scores" thing is just dumb. Hell just give them 15 minutes, no time-outs, no challenges, you can't even stop the clock. You've got fifteen minutes to figure things out and get the best score on the board.
 
Take out Sudden Death.
No requirement for both teams to touch the ball.

Use a 5 minute over time period...tie if no winner....simple as that.

Stop making rules that don't apply in the regular season.
 
Trekker4747 said:
Really, the way I see it, just play the full 15 minutes and then call the game wherever it stands. This whole "play until someone scores" thing is just dumb. Hell just give them 15 minutes, no time-outs, no challenges, you can't even stop the clock. You've got fifteen minutes to figure things out and get the best score on the board.
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I'm already pissed when I can't watch my game because somebody else is in Overtime. How bad would that be if they played a full 15?
 
The same as people who've programed their TVs to record regular Sunday night programing and the cable TiFauxs aren't smart enough to shift the recording times to accommodate for games that've ran over OT or not?
 
No, people who have to rely on broadcast television can't watch the game they want to watch because the network wants to finish the game already on. Especially if the game they want to watch isn't the local team. Your post made no sense based on anything I wrote above.
 
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