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Star Wars Heir To The Empire special edition coming

Whofan

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http://www.starwars.com/vault/books/heir20th/index.html

Sounds interesting. I wonder what insight the notes will take-Zahn's original concepts that Lucasfilm vetoed? Continuity notes? Plus I wonder if there will be a new cover, the old one is kind of cool but dated.

For those who have not read the novel, Heir To The Empire basically was the beginning of the 90s Star Wars Expanded universe, which for the most part continued the adventures of Luke, Han, and Leia against the Empire and other villains.

It and it's two followups still hold up pretty well today, and many fans wanted something similar instead of the prequels.
 
Very cool. Even after so many years, these books are still on the shortlist of best Star Wars expanded universe content.
 
It's overrated imo. Yes, it captures a lot of the spirit of the OT.

On the other hand, I found Mara Sue Jade nauseating.
 
When they said "Special Edition" I thought it meant they were going to alter it to make it fit with the Prequels in terms of the Clone Wars taking place 50 years in the past, the nature of the cloning, etc...
 
Sounds interesting. I wonder what insight the notes will take-Zahn's original concepts that Lucasfilm vetoed? Continuity notes?
I'd like to see the original outline, which has a clone Obi-Wan. (Joruus C'boath replaced him.)

Zahn also worked out a pretty thorough version of the Clone Wars, complete with a chronology. I'd like to see his notes on that. No, they're not compatible with the Prequel Trilogy, but I don't really care. I'll take Zahn over Revenge of the Sith any day. ;)
 
When they said "Special Edition" I thought it meant they were going to alter it to make it fit with the Prequels in terms of the Clone Wars taking place 50 years in the past, the nature of the cloning, etc...

Are you being sarcastic or getting confused? One of the problems with Thrawn Trilogy was the timeline was so FUBAR'd - and it pretty much put The Clone Wars 40 - 50 years before ANH.
 
There are several Mara Jade fan films but no one has done a direct adaptation.


As for any changes, I believe the supplement story "Mist encounter" was edited somewhat to fit in with the prequel timeline. As for the cloning thing, Zahn explained that the Spaarti containers were an alternate to the Kamino technique in his Clone Wars Star Wars Insider story.
 
One of the problems with Thrawn Trilogy was the timeline was so FUBAR'd - and it pretty much put The Clone Wars 40 - 50 years before ANH.
More like 35 years - implying that there was an Empire vs. Republic war around the ~20 BBY time that Anakin became Vader. Not sure if Lucas had decided that the Republic peacefully became, rather than was invaded and conquered by the Empire at that point.
 
Sounds interesting. I wonder what insight the notes will take-Zahn's original concepts that Lucasfilm vetoed? Continuity notes?
I'd like to see the original outline, which has a clone Obi-Wan. (Joruus C'boath replaced him.)

Zahn also worked out a pretty thorough version of the Clone Wars, complete with a chronology. I'd like to see his notes on that. No, they're not compatible with the Prequel Trilogy, but I don't really care. I'll take Zahn over Revenge of the Sith any day. ;)
I thought it was just jedi getting cloned and running amuck across the galaxy.

With the special edition, hopefully they change all the "dark jedi" references to Sith Lords and amend the timeline perhap even add a few references to the clone wars published material in the novels and in the comics.
 
It would be more interesting to me if they were revising the book to be more in line with the prequel movies and the ongoing animated cartoon.

I read Heir but have yet to read the other books. I enjoyed Heir well enough, but I think Thrawn is overrated. Mara Jade is cool, but I think SW fans tend to go a bit gaga over Thrawn and I don't quite get it. He's an okay villain but nothing spectacular. To be fair, maybe my opinion will change whenever I finish the rest of the trilogy.
 
Actually my initial impressions of the Clone Wars before the prequels ruined them that they were just a series of major conflicts involving run amok clones. The Jedi were asked by the Republic to engage the clones leading to their fracturing and weakening so that Palpatine and Vader could begin the purge.
 
With the special edition, hopefully they change
It would be more interesting to me if they were revising the book to be more in line with the prequel movies
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When they said "Special Edition" I thought it meant they were going to alter it to make it fit with the Prequels in terms of the Clone Wars taking place 50 years in the past, the nature of the cloning, etc...

Are you being sarcastic or getting confused? One of the problems with Thrawn Trilogy was the timeline was so FUBAR'd - and it pretty much put The Clone Wars 40 - 50 years before ANH.

Sounds interesting. I wonder what insight the notes will take-Zahn's original concepts that Lucasfilm vetoed? Continuity notes?
I'd like to see the original outline, which has a clone Obi-Wan. (Joruus C'boath replaced him.)

Zahn also worked out a pretty thorough version of the Clone Wars, complete with a chronology. I'd like to see his notes on that. No, they're not compatible with the Prequel Trilogy, but I don't really care. I'll take Zahn over Revenge of the Sith any day. ;)
I thought it was just jedi getting cloned and running amuck across the galaxy.

With the special edition, hopefully they change all the "dark jedi" references to Sith Lords and amend the timeline perhap even add a few references to the clone wars published material in the novels and in the comics.

It would be more interesting to me if they were revising the book to be more in line with the prequel movies and the ongoing animated cartoon.

I read Heir but have yet to read the other books. I enjoyed Heir well enough, but I think Thrawn is overrated. Mara Jade is cool, but I think SW fans tend to go a bit gaga over Thrawn and I don't quite get it. He's an okay villain but nothing spectacular. To be fair, maybe my opinion will change whenever I finish the rest of the trilogy.

Wow, are you people serious? The strength of the Thrawn trilogy is that it didn't constantly refer back to the PT.
 
The Republic was never intended to be invaded by the Empire. It's clear from the very first Star Wars novelization-as well as early scripts-that the Empire was the Republic.


What did change however was the villains. Originally, the Emperor was actually just a reclusive puppet ruler and the moffs were in charge. But apart from that, this outline pretty much is the prequel story, right down to the commerce part.

Here's an excerpt from the intro to the Star Wars novel:

Another galaxy, another time.
The Old Republic was the Republic of legend, greater than distance or time.
No need to note where it was or whence it came, only to know that...it was
the
Republic.
Once, under the wise rule of the Senate and the protection of the Jedi
Knights, the Republic throve and grew. But as often happens when wealth and
power pass beyond the admiralble and attain the awesome, then appear those evil
ones who have greed to match.
So it was with the Republic at its height. Like the greatest of trees, able
to withstand any external attack, the Republic rotted from within though the
danger was not visible from outside.
Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry individuals within the
government, and the massive organs of commerce, the ambitious Senator Palpatine
caused himself to be elected President of the Republic. He promised to reunite
the disaffected among the people and to restore the remembered glory of the
Republic.
Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away
from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-
lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice
did not reach his ears.
Having exterminated through treachery and deception the Jedi Knights,
guardians of justice in the galaxy, the Imperial governors and bureaucrats
prepared to institute a reign of terror among the disheartened worlds of the
galaxy. Many used the imperial forces and the name of the increasingly isolated
Emperor to further their own personal ambitions.
But a small number of systems rebelled at these new outrages. Declaring
themselves opposed to the New order they began the great battle to restore the
Old Republic.
From the beginning they were vastly outnumbered by the systems held in
thrall by the Emperor. In those first dark days it seemed certain the bright
flame of resistance would be extinguished before it could cast the light of new
truth across a galaxy of oppressed and beaten peoples...

From the First Saga
Journal of the Whills


As for the whole Honogr/Noghri stuff, on which the timescale for the CW was based originally, that's actually explained quite well in one of the Clone Wars comics. Hint: Different planets have different rotations.
 
AviTRek,

There was no PT when the Thrawn trilogy was written. I wouldn't mind seeing a revised trilogy that incorporates the canon Clone Wars events. Though I am interested in seeing what thoughts Zahn had on the Clone Wars. I like looking at alternate takes on things.
 
It would be more interesting to me if they were revising the book to be more in line with the prequel movies and the ongoing animated cartoon.
I agree.

Some proposed changes
1) a retroactive explaination of the Thrawn campaign as a second round of Clone Wars
2) include some details of the bioweapons accident that destroyed Honoghr as it was detailed in the comic books
3) Pellaeon's experiences with the Jedi in the Clone Wars
4) Additional references to the Vong
5) replace Dark Jedi with Sith Lords
6) Foreshadow Jacen's eventual fall

Some answers for:
1) what was the race that Thrawn destroyed when he couldn't understand them through art
2) the alien builder of the black stone buildings in both the Thrawn books and their sequels
3) Mara Jade's parentage, where did she come from?
 
AviTRek,

There was no PT when the Thrawn trilogy was written. I wouldn't mind seeing a revised trilogy that incorporates the canon Clone Wars events. Though I am interested in seeing what thoughts Zahn had on the Clone Wars. I like looking at alternate takes on things.

I'm well aware the Thrawn trilogy was written before the PT. I think it's a lot stronger for it. I have no more interest in seeing the Thrawn trilogy changed than I do in seeing the OT changed.
 
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