10 ways they could have gotten home with Time travel.

[Guy Gardener]

The Caretaker said that he didn't have time to send them back.

Janeway can make time.

Starship + the Suns magnetic field (yes magnetic field, not gravametric field. look it up.)

1. Travel back in time a week before Caretaker even during the events of caretaker to destroy the Array creating a paradox making their kidnapping impossible. it wasn't until Eye of the Needle that they claimed that they had ha too much impact on the DQ to erase their presence there in that space.

2. Travel back in time a thousand years and ask the Nacene, Caretaker's people for help home, since they might not be congenital idiots who are senile, with a complete grasp of the technology they possess.

3. Travel back in time to when the Barzan wormhole was in use. They should have the dates and locations of many of its random openings into the DQ from the AQ since at the very least "some one" should have been firing probes into it now and then to map the DQ.

4 Attack the Romulans from eye of the needle. That test canister they beamed aboard could have been full of sleeping gas. Then travel forward in time to the present.

5. Leave a message behind on earth in 1996 like Doc Brown sent to Marty McFly from the Wild West to 1955, or if Earth is too unstable, go leave the "letter" explaining what to do, on Vulcan to stop them ever being lost or begin early the rescue mission that support ships for Voyager could have been sent out 20 years before Voyager was even lost.

6. Travel forward in time from 1995 during futures end to present day.

7. travel back in time 10 years, follow young Seven of Nine around until she heads off to wolf 359 (infinite regress, she was there.) and continue hiding in perhaps even shuttles magnetically adhered to the cubes hull? This of course would follow that they could do the same, following the cube from First contact back into earth controlled space since seven mentioned she knew the particulars of that mission too in Year of Hell even though it might have certainly been launched from an alternate timeline to be beneficial on this new present.

8. Travel back in time to 1937 and hijack the buggers who had been kidnapping humans and flitting instantaneously from one side of the galaxy to the other effortlessly.

9. Travel back in time 500 years to ask help from Chakotay's sky people back when they were powerful and magnificent.

10. Travel back in time to get help from the Dinosaurs before Kathryn alienated them by informing the cold blooded zealots that they were not aliens.

 

[Brolan]

True, but then they wouldn't have had a series then...

 

[Destructor]

Plus every single one of those would have massive, far-flung, unpredictable effects on the timeline. Half of them could wipe out starfleet completely!

 

[Anwar]

If they kept the series from happening, VOY wouldn't have been there to stop those Galaxy threatening events that occurred like "Scorpion", "Year of Hell", etc.

It's why Future Janeway chose that one moment to alter history: By then all the important stuff they'd done had happened and the risk to the future in negative alteration was minor.

 

[zar]

True, but then they wouldn't have had a series then...

The entire series could have been (Seven) Year(s) of Hell, and in the finale Kim would get promoted just before Janeway goes back in time and makes it so none of it ever happened. Neelix goes flying his garbage truck into the sunset, roll credits.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You mean 23 years. It took Voyager 23 years to get home.

 

[zar]

I was saying she would give up after 7 years and just go back and make it so they never got lost in the first place, effectively erasing the entire series Year of Hell-style. (and I'm mostly kidding, I don't think this would actually be a good finale)

 

[Guy Gardener]

You're not joking.

That is exactly what happened in Endgame.

From Admiral Janeways perspective she did travel back to almost the beginning. L'll Kathy hadn't even reached the one third mark on her journey home, which means that if L'll Kathy was to trek back a relatively proportionate degree of her journey into history that the old broad did, L'll Kathy's time machine would be depositing the young Captain some where still inside Kazon space.

It's actually 39 years if you include the year of Hell and the timeless timeline which snapped back intot he presents face. Though, most of them were dead and in the Beta Quadrant so... Oh bother.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Why didn't they just keep their "Threshold" drive at warp 9.99999999999999?

Why didn't Janeway investigate the technology in Cysperia's array?

Why didn't that Klingon Borg give them a lift home in "Unimatrix Zero"?

Why didn't the crew abandon Voyager in "Prime Factors", get halfway home and aquire a ship on the other side to finish the journey?

Why didn't they beam through the wormhole in "Eye of the Needle" and go into hiding for 20 years, or put themselves in stasis?



Those are just OTOH. There are probably many more. If the writers didn't put much thought into it, why should we?

 

[The_Baroness]

Actually, theres no reason why they couldn't have all beamed aboard the romulan ship in Eye of the needle, while setting voyager on auto-pilot to go back in time 90 years (perhaps piloted by the doctor) by doing the round the sun thing...set it on a course for the other end of the microwormhole in the time zone where it led to (hence the 90 years into the past, then 70 years travel to arrive 20 years in voyager past) it would be there when Janeway and co arrive on the romulan ship, then beam back over, and send it forward in time 20 years! VOILA!

...or I suppose they could have just gone back to when the wormhole was stable and before it collapsed, travelled through it, then gone forward in time again.


OR! Gone back in time 70 years, shoved all the crew in stasis - like they did in that one episode where seven went mental - set the ship on autopilot, arriving back in the alpha quadrant shortly after they left without aging!

 

[Guy Gardener]

I've actually assumed that the real crew is in stasis and who we got to know over the years were just a bunch of clones.

Warp travel is too complicated to be regulated by an autopilot (Or because of the M5's killing spree, it was just technology they did not believe was moral to pursue.) but if they were to design and use engines (Turn off their Heisenberg compensators?) that didn't ignore relativity, they could seem to travel vast distances instantly, and then compensate for 70 thousand years worth of relativity with time travel along the way, or even merely stepping through the Guardian of forever once they're back in the AQ.

 

[Finn]

Why didn't the crew abandon Voyager in "Prime Factors", get halfway home and aquire a ship on the other side to finish the journey?

We have no idea if the planet Harry transported himself to was actually inhabited, IIRC

 

[Guy Gardener]

it wasn't a random planet.

They landed on transporter pads.

One of the girls knew it by name.

It was an official destination, part of a mass transit system.

As long as they can get a couple portable replicators to the otherside, they can begin to build the parts for industrial replicators and then start to make ships... Something smaller than Voyager would take les time, but if they're living and breeding and interbreeding on this planet half way to earth they might need to build a galaxy class or ambassador class Starship to fit the new crew comfortably...

or did you mean the locals (if it's not even a Sikarian outpost? but why make a resort on a populated planet of aboriginies they can't control unless they were into slave labour?) might be restless and against the idea of a human colony building factories which are building warships?

But once they're on that outpost it might be easier to build a subspace array so that they can contact the Cytherians who can fold space.

I am amazed that Young Janeway didn't turn on season 7 Chakotay in Shattered, and make sure that time finished squarely in her home turf since she was agreeing to her own assassination for almost no reward.

 

[zar]

You're not joking.

That is exactly what happened in Endgame.

They just erased 16(?) years that we never even saw. Why stop there when you can erase the entire journey along with any chance of seeing what would have happened to the characters afterward? Fans would have loved that.

Seriously though they could have easily made it home in Future's End. Why didn't they just hide somewhere that they knew wouldn't be searched until the 24th century and put themselves in stasis?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Because they're morons and perhaps they were concerned if they didn't limit Braxton's (and Starlings) impact on the present that the future they woke up in could be completely alien to them?

But once they had that sorted, when the second Braxton turned up who said that she was scanning parallel time lines (which completely invalidates a to b to c to a.) they could have tried to bump him off too like they did with the first Braxton they met, but it might be understood by the mention of parallel timelines that this 1996 they were in was already not the home this crew came from but some thing divergent leading god knows where and they needed Braxton to take them diagonally in time to the mirror universe they were indigenous before they started going up and down stream.

Wait, you didn't see the full 23 years?

Season 11 was awesome.

You need to talk to your cable provider.

 

[Finn]

You're not joking.

That is exactly what happened in Endgame.

They just erased 16(?) years that we never even saw. Why stop there when you can erase the entire journey along with any chance of seeing what would have happened to the characters afterward? Fans would have loved that.

Seriously though they could have easily made it home in Future's End. Why didn't they just hide somewhere that they knew wouldn't be searched until the 24th century and put themselves in stasis?

I don't think Braxton would have allowed that.

 

[Destructor]

Season 11 was awesome.

Oh, yeah! When they find that planet that ET comes from and it's being invaded by aliens from Melmac and second officer The Rock tells Janeway she can't interfere because of the Prime Directive... what a classic!

 

[Guy Gardener]

You're not joking.

That is exactly what happened in Endgame.

They just erased 16(?) years that we never even saw. Why stop there when you can erase the entire journey along with any chance of seeing what would have happened to the characters afterward? Fans would have loved that.

Seriously though they could have easily made it home in Future's End. Why didn't they just hide somewhere that they knew wouldn't be searched until the 24th century and put themselves in stasis?

I don't think Braxton would have allowed that.

In 7 out of 9 Mirror universes, I don't think Braxton could have stopped Janeway if she wanted to stay put. After all, that's how all this lost in time bollocks first started, someone insinuated that they knew better than Kathryn Janeway so she blasted them.

 

[Finn]

But how could Cullah remember Seven in that season 9 episode?