Star Fleet Gadgets

[Brainsucker]

I don't know about the other people, but I think Star Fleet as an idealism military faction in 24th Centuries lack of Hazardous Field protection gadgets. They seem don't even care the safety of their starship crews. Beside the Officers are looks like Desk Officer instead of Field Operative.

Look at how Picard and his crews when fight the enemy in an away team mission. They just take Tricoder, medi-tricoder, and a simple phaser. Oh yes, I forget to mentioned Star Fleet Pin. Other than that, they just don't take anything else. They even wear office leather shoes, not boots. Plus, they don't even know how to hide in a fire fight situation. Fortunately for them, the enemy are just the bunch of idiot who can't shoot the target. So they don't need to hide to save their own skin.

then look at Star Trek XI. We can see a female officer blown away from the ship, thrown to the void space without any chance of survival.

And, if you remember in engine, the engineers didn't even use hazardous equipment when they work. Yes, the room is completely safe in normal condition. But in dangerous situation like combat? what if there is a radiation leak in the ship? Aren't the engineers crew exposed to the radiation or dangerous situation?

In combat, we can see the bridge officers doesn't use anything to protect themselves. It just... stupid if you ask me. What if there are power failure to the life support system? Don't the captain and the crews will dead in an instant? Shouldn't they wear protection just like space suit when in battle? Or has any oxygen tube in the room for emergency use?

It just stupid. A well established sci-fi like star trek should has consider all of them. Even the today USA gives their soldiers more protection than Star Fleet Officers.

Optimism of better tomorrow? Oh yes, if you consider that every Officers in star fleet are superman / supergirl who doesn't require any standard hazardous equipments.

 

[Borgminister]

Instead of Mr. Spock, you could have Mr. Gadget!

 

[Shatnertage]

Instead of Mr. Spock, you could have Mr. Gadget!

How about Inspector Gadget?

Do I even need to say that none of Star Trek represents a "realistic" set of procedures for exploring a real "strange new world?" Obviously, they would do extensive scans, and probably send down robots to do preliminary surveys, but for one thing: sitting on the bridge watching reports filter in would be an exercise in soul-crushing boredom.

So naturally they don't take any safety precautions.

But this gives me a great idea for a new Star Trek series. Certainly this one, with its emphasis on realism and the ability to provide subtle commentary on contemporary workplace issues, will be green-lit post haste:

Star Trek: Occupational Health and Safety

This show will follow the exploits of Starfleet's elite occupational hazards inspection unit, Section 42-G. As empowered by the aforementioned section of the Federation charter, this group conducts routine health and safety inspections of all Starfleet starbases, stations, and ships.

It will be a gripping drama, with "ripped from the headlines" cases taken from actual OSHA reports (adapted, naturally, the the Star Trek universe).

I don't know about casting, but I think Rainn Wilson as the squad's by-the-book second in command is a must. I'd also like to see Isiah "Clay Davis" Whitlock, Jr, as the squad's liaison with Starfleet HQ who inevitably over-ruled the squad after the transfer of the requisite amount of latinum.

Some people say you can make an entertaining show, and others say you can make one that highlights the very real dangers in any workplace, be it on Earth or in the Neutral Zone. I say, why not do both?

 

[Brainsucker]

Well, we don't need Robots for survey. At least, they wear a protection suit rather than red T-Shirt with pin. We don't need a bulk space suit like NASA Space suit. Just simple suit with several safety gadget like emergency Oxygen Masker, and other safety tools.

Say, rather than "Field" T-Shirt Uniform, why not just high tech standard uniform that will "POP UP" a helmet and full body protection when in hazardous enviroment?

Plus, why not equip the Security officer with targeting lense, or drone that will spy the location before they enter a dangerous area. Or personal Transporter that send the user to short distant for tactical combat advantage? Hell, in 24th Century, even the security officers doesn't understand the basic of tactical combat / equip themselves with high tech gadget. Even today special force are more advanced than them. Or... they just security officer, well, like a civilian security officer from a civilian building rather than an official Star Fleet Armed security that protect an important exploration starship from dangerous Aliens

 

[Brainsucker]

Instead of Mr. Spock, you could have Mr. Gadget!

How about Inspector Gadget?

Do I even need to say that none of Star Trek represents a "realistic" set of procedures for exploring a real "strange new world?" Obviously, they would do extensive scans, and probably send down robots to do preliminary surveys, but for one thing: sitting on the bridge watching reports filter in would be an exercise in soul-crushing boredom.

So naturally they don't take any safety precautions.

But this gives me a great idea for a new Star Trek series. Certainly this one, with its emphasis on realism and the ability to provide subtle commentary on contemporary workplace issues, will be green-lit post haste:

Star Trek: Occupational Health and Safety

This show will follow the exploits of Starfleet's elite occupational hazards inspection unit, Section 42-G. As empowered by the aforementioned section of the Federation charter, this group conducts routine health and safety inspections of all Starfleet starbases, stations, and ships.

It will be a gripping drama, with "ripped from the headlines" cases taken from actual OSHA reports (adapted, naturally, the the Star Trek universe).

I don't know about casting, but I think Rainn Wilson as the squad's by-the-book second in command is a must. I'd also like to see Isiah "Clay Davis" Whitlock, Jr, as the squad's liaison with Starfleet HQ who inevitably over-ruled the squad after the transfer of the requisite amount of latinum.

Some people say you can make an entertaining show, and others say you can make one that highlights the very real dangers in any workplace, be it on Earth or in the Neutral Zone. I say, why not do both?

Oh, btw, I watched a Japanese Science Fiction about a space cleaning service / a team that take the garbage (including the broken Satellite) from the orbit, and it was a good series.

So, if it will become the next Star Trek Series, I'll watched it. I don't care if it just a parody or stupid, but as long as the story is good, I'll watch it.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

This is one of my pet peeves about Star Trek. Okay I know why they don't want to show Starfleet officers in heavy battle armor but by the 23rd or 24th C, they could have lightweight, silk-like fabric that offer better protection than kevlar. Or how about personal shields? They give ships shields but not their people. Bah!

 

[Brainsucker]

I agree with Temis. Just show at least a lightweight high tech uniform that not only used as everyday clothes but also offer protection on it. That's why I put this mess into the future trek, not in general talk

 

[aventinelover]

I agree with Temis. Just show at least a lightweight high tech uniform that not only used as everyday clothes but also offer protection on it. That's why I put this mess into the future trek, not in general talk

Interesting you should mention this. In the Captain Gold short story in the Captain's Log trade paperback, he encounters someone from Starfleet in the "future" and the description of their uniform makes it sound like it's basically composed of "hard light" armor, or at least that's the way I pictured it when I read it.

 

[aventinelover]

I agree with Temis. Just show at least a lightweight high tech uniform that not only used as everyday clothes but also offer protection on it. That's why I put this mess into the future trek, not in general talk

Interesting you should mention this. In the Captain Gold short story in the Captain's Log trade paperback, he encounters someone from Starfleet in the "future" and the description of their uniform makes it sound like it's basically composed of "hard light" armor, or at least that's the way I pictured it when I read it.

And I forgot to add that in Star Trek Online, the various characters have reactive/hard light based armor, so it appears others agree with this position.

 

[Sigh]

Are we assuming that the trek uniform as we've seen it is the equivalent of a suit and tie?

I assume that it's at least some kind of medium grade kevlar... but then it hasn't been addressed very well.

And I always assumed deep in the recesses of my mind that there was some packhorse standing just off the fourth wall with all their extra equipment. We never see the toilet but we just assume it's there.

 

[zar]

What if there are power failure to the life support system? Don't the captain and the crews will dead in an instant?

Nope. I used to think this too, so I was confused whenever they would "divert all power" including life support and still be breathing. But actually, the life support system just recycles the oxygen. When it goes offline, they still have a ship full of oxygen to breathe -- enough to live on for several hours probably -- but when it's gone, it's gone.

Are we assuming that the trek uniform as we've seen it is the equivalent of a suit and tie?

I assume that it's at least some kind of medium grade kevlar... but then it hasn't been addressed very well.

Well...

 

[Brainsucker]

What if there are power failure to the life support system? Don't the captain and the crews will dead in an instant?

Nope. I used to think this too, so I was confused whenever they would "divert all power" including life support and still be breathing. But actually, the life support system just recycles the oxygen. When it goes offline, they still have a ship full of oxygen to breathe -- enough to live on for several hours probably -- but when it's gone, it's gone.

What I mean is a hull breach that suck out the oxygen. A time where the area will exposed to the outer space. there are force field, but what if the force field is also gone?

 

[zar]

Well, I guess it's similar to asking why we don't wear helmets whenever we get into our cars, even though there are tens of thousands of deaths from car accidents every year.

The likelihood of those disasters would be considered small enough that the safety of wearing space suits all the time is outweighed by desire for the comfort of not wearing them and the time saved by not putting them on.

 

[Sigh]

We do take a few precautions when being in a vehicle, such as wearing our seatbelts though.

 

[zar]

seatbelts -> inertial dampeners
airbags -> force fields

 

[Brainsucker]

In normal condition, it is okay to just wearing T-shirts. But, in combat? A situation where everything can be destroyed in a minutes?

I think a light weighted space suits (not the bulky one) should be used by the crews when the combat begin. Or... at least special suit that has mini replicator and mini oxygen tube for safety. The replicator can be used to create emergency helmet and space suit when the crew body is exposed to outer space. Then, it should has mini transporter that can transport the wearer to short distance.

The mini transporter is important, as for security officer, it can put them to more strategic location in an instant, for engineer, it can safe their life when in danger (trapped in sealed room, or thrown out to outer space)

 

[zar]

They wouldn't really need specialized equipment. "Battle stations" should include transporter operators, their job being to keep a lock on people who are in sections that are at risk and beam them somewhere safe if there is a hull breach and force fields fail.