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Jedi powers

Temis the Vorta

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Continuing with my series of Star Wars for Trekkies themed posts, please explain Jedi powers to me.

I get the basics, they come from the Force. What powers to Jedi actually have? Do they all have the same powers? Which ones most require training in order to use successfully? Do Sith have some powers Jedi don't and vice-versa?

These are the ones I remember seeing/hearing about:

-Telekinesis
-Fast reflexes - is this an aspect of telekinesis? is it an actual Jedi power or just a product of training?
-Jumping/falling long distances without injury - also TK?
-Mind-control - limited - or can it be strengthened by practice?
-Precognition - also limited - same question about practice

Am I missing anything? There's no time-travel, stopping time, walking through walls, or anything like that, right?
 
Force-lightning should be mentioned as a mostly Sith ability. Jedi presumably can do it too, but don't as it may be viewed as a Dark Side power, IMO.
 
Force powers are innate to a force-user to some degree and are further enhanced through training. It is possible for a force user , with instruction and practice, to use any power regardless of that power's perceived "alignment" to light or dark.

If you recall from Episode 1, Qui-Gon says that the ability to see things before they happen (fast reflexes) is a jedi trait. It is one of the things that is innate and basic to a force useer.
 
In the EU you have a lot more range of Force powers. Not all Jedi are equal in their powers, some are stronger than others and individuals are stronger in certain areas. The most prominent in that regards are the Horns, who all are pretty rubbish at telekinesis, however they have a very powerful ability to absorb energy. So individuals can be naturally limited in certain areas. I think the only limit the EU has put on Luke (that Luke has admitted to at least) was that he isn't that great at mind-control/clouding minds abilities.

Jedi also have the ability to sense other powerful centres of force energy, such as other users or areas/items that are imbued with Force energy.

The Jedi can use the Force to heal themselves and others. Cade Skywalker from the Legacy comics can bring people back from the dead with the Force, though in using it he skirts the Dark side.

They can also create illusions and even make things invisible. Doesn't seem to be a normal Jedi trick but is learnt by Luke from another Force user sect.

As for time travel, Jedi can "flow walk", which is the ability to step back and into the past as not only an observer but to also interact. Again a skill learnt from other Force users. As said below you can't actually change the past just your perception of it.

Of course there's the living beyond death trick from the movies that both the Jedi and Sith can do...not sure if these methods are the same or not.

Actually, why am I listing them out myself. Have a look at the Wookiedpedia article. There are some very crazy and whacky force powers that have turned up in the EU.
 
-Fast reflexes - This is this an aspect of mental and emotional senses. It is a combo of training and the force mental abilities.

-Jumping/falling long distances without injury - also TK? (yes, same with the enhanced movement and speed. They literally use the force to move themselves faster.)

-Precognition - also limited - same question about practice (likely better with practice)

Flow walking was used to view the past, but the events cannot be altered.
 
the Jedi Knight games give the powers as:

Force Push
Force Pull
Force Choke
Force Speed (run really fast)
Force Lightning
Force Grip (enabling you to choke someone and move them about)
Force Drain (drain opponents of Force energy. Not a movie power)
Force Absorb (ability to absorb energy without suffering damage Yoda does it in AOTC when he absorbs Dooku's Lightning)
Force Heal (allows you to regenerate your health. Obi-Wan kinda uses it on Luke after the Tusken attack)
Mind Trick

Push, Pull, Choke and Grip are all basically telekinesis.
 
There's also the Jedi ghost trick, which apparentally Qui-Gon teaches Yoda & Obi-Wan. Basically, upon death, you fade and become a ghost. Apparentally Qui-Gon learned this from beyond the grave or something, even though he personally did not vanish. According to some sources, Vader vanishes in ROTJ and Luke is just burning the armor on the funeral pyre.

In the original ROTJ script (Before Kasdan's involvement) things got even weirder with Obi-Wan and Yoda returning from the dead. I'm not kidding.




The EU of course muddles things by having force spirits of practically every single Jedi or sith. It also mentions right from Heir to the Empire that force ghosts eventually fade away when they feel their work is done and go to a higher plane of existence, or something. Dark Empire revealed that force ghosts can also posess people (Palpatine leaps into his own clone body but also tries to possess Anakin Solo, but his spirit 'dies' when he jumps into a dying Jedi instead), and apparentally this happened in Splinter of the Mind's Eye as well with Obi-Wan 'controlling' Luke.

Also to add to the force heal power, apparentally some Jedi are trained as medics, which came in handy during the clone wars.
 
There's also a very rare technique called Battle Meditation and only a few Jedi have ever been able to use it.

What it does it to create a battle network via the Force greatly enhancing the capabilities of a military force and far surpassing anything that can be communicated via technological means.
 
Jedi Force Ghost isn't really a trick perse but mastering the force and becoming one with the living force. I believe that this is what Qui-Jon was attempting to teach Obi-Wan to be aware of in episode I when we see the two of them for the first time. Yeah everyone's pretty much stated all of the abilities...I would tweak 'mind control' with mind manipulation, I suppose that if you were a Sith you would expand that ability to full control while the Jedi Mind Trick is really manipulation and supposedly only works on the weak minded.
 
In the EU being a "Jedi" allows multiple careers or paths open to you and Jedi usually go where are needed and do what they do best since some are more refined at certain aspect of The Force than others.

The Force in itself is Universal meaning that barring any genetic differences any force users should be capable of doing any power whether it's light or dark. Though doing to much of the dark stuff seems to invoke the saying "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Aside from those with genetic disabilities like the Horn family most Jedi/Sith can use the following from birth:

Precognition
Weak Telepathy (communication of emotions only)
Telekinesis (push, pull, grip)
Body Enhancement (Speed, Jumping, Healing, Strength, etc.)
Mind Tricks

It's only through training that you learn to use that in various ways or in combination to get other things like:

Full Telepathy (communications of thoughts and images)
Flow Walking
Force Lightning
Electrical Absorption or Interference with Electronics
Weather Manipulation
Force Illusions
Manipulating body chemistry and healing others
Harming others mentally or internally through the Force
Manipulation of Gravity or other such physics
 
There's also Shatterpoint, a skill which Mace Windu has in the novels (but not mentioned in the movies, although I think CW might have used it).
 
The most prominent in that regards are the Horns, who all are pretty rubbish at telekinesis, however they have a very powerful ability to absorb energy.
I can't recall for Valin or Jysella, but Corran Horn also is quite talented at illusions - convincing people they're seeing something that isn't there.

The one ability I don't believe I've seen mentioned yet is also the one that I consider the most interesting: Shatterpoint. It is, of course, another creation of the EU and was featured in the Star Wars: The Clone Wars CGI series on at least one occasion. The most famous Jedi practitioner of this ability was Mace Windu, though it was revealed in the Legacy of the Force series that Luke Skywalker also had mastered the ability and he taught it to Jaina Solo. Essentially, shatterpoint always a Jedi to see weak points in both opponents, structures, events, etc. For opponents & structures, it was useful because a Jedi could know the exact point at which an object could be broken. For events, it allowed a Jedi to visualize where intervention could cause those events to move in different directions. Basically, the Jedi is able to see the fault lines in an object or event.

Here is a screenshot of Mace using shatterpoint in TCW. I would wager that this was also a use of shatterpoint, from the Tartakovsky Clone Wars animated series.

EDIT: Of course, while I was typing, Whofan beat me to the punch. :p
 
Force-lightning should be mentioned as a mostly Sith ability. Jedi presumably can do it too, but don't as it may be viewed as a Dark Side power, IMO.

Oh right, I forgot about that one. Does using dark side powers make a Jedi more vulnerable to the dark side? How about just committing evil acts in general?
I think the only limit the EU has put on Luke (that Luke has admitted to at least) was that he isn't that great at mind-control/clouding minds abilities.
Somehow I didn't think that would be his forte. :D

If Jedi/Sith powers are all about controlling the basic physical forces of the universe, then they should be able to walk thru walls. Solid objects are mainly empty space with some widely dispersed atoms. Just move your atoms inbetween the wall's atoms.

Are fast reflexes really a form of precognition (the Jedi isn't so much fast, as able to see a little into the future and dodge or block a blaster ray before he's able to see it)?
What it does it to create a battle network via the Force greatly enhancing the capabilities of a military force and far surpassing anything that can be communicated via technological means.
Does that apply only to the Jedi in the fight? Is it the same "mind-linking" idea among soldierboys (battle robots remotely operated mentally) as in Forever Peace?
Weak Telepathy (communication of emotions only)

That reminds me - is there any canon take on how Leia realized Luke was in danger at the end of ESB? Would Luke have been able to communicate with anyone who wasn't a Force sensitive, or did he just wildly luck out that there was one in range who would bother to save him?
 
Short minilecture on science (because I like science:vulcan:)
That was a really good question and deserves a real answer. The short answer is there isn't really any empty space except in gases, which people of all sorts walk through daily, without a thought.

If you're allergic to science, please skip the long answer following.

The notion of matter as largely empy space arose in connection with the Borh model of the atom. This was conceived in 1912 if I remember my dates correctly. In this view, an atom was a tiny nucleus orbited by even tinier electrons. By far the largest part of the atom was empty space. The Bohr model worked very well for the simplest atom, the hydrogen atom, but it was soon realized that the picture didn't work for anything more complex. (It was still a tremendous advance, just given the relative cosmic abundance of hydrogen.) The first quantum theory circa 1926 put quietus to the Bohr model except as a schematic way of representing electronic structure of atoms on two dimensional paper.

In the modern view, rather fully developed since Linus Pauling's work on chemical bonding, we do not imagine electrons as specks of matter. In chemistry, where a better picture of electrons is vital to clear understanding, we think of "orbitals" instead. The orbitals are generally labeled the volume where the electron might be found. The volumes of these orbitals collectively "fill" the volume of the atom. In unbonded atoms, the orbitals are called s, p, d or f orbitals when referring to their general shape (subscripts denote orientation and coefficients denot principle energy level.)

In bonded atoms, the orbitals extend between the nuclei, which is what constitutes the bond. The basic configurations are pi or sigma orbitals. But it is possible and sometimes desirable to conceive of the orbitals as taking a shape specific to the molecular. This might ring a bell as Molecular Orbital theory of molecular structure (as opposed to the VSEPR theory.)

Middle school and high school science teachers have confused people by resurrecting the Borh model inappropriately. They've also confused people by telling students atoms and molecules are widely separated in gases (true,) slightly separated in liquids and in contact in solids. These last two are not true, which is the confusion. Traditionally the sequence of atomic models is brought into science classes as an historical example of the process of scientific discovery. (In practice, there doesn't seem to be enough historical detail or narrative to serve that purpose. But the Bohr model's attractive simplicity seems to stick in place of the quantum theory, for the good reason quantum theory isn't actually taught.)

All unbonded atoms are separated, by quantum effects if nothing else. In liquids, the intermolecular forces keep the atoms or molecules from separating like the particles in gases. Liquids have a definite volume. But the particles can move freely, so this phase has no definite shape. Liquids are essentially incompressible. That's why hydraulics work!

The particles in solids are not literally in contact either. The same electron repulsion responsible for elastic rebound in gases prevents this in solids. But the intermolecular forces in solid are strong enough to prevent free movement from place to place, albeit unable to prevent rotation and vibration. Rotation and vibration are why there is contamination in crystals, as foreign particles slowly migrate into the structure. It is also why crystals or other solids can deform over time, depending on conditions. Wax, firn in glaciers, mantle rock, antique plate glass, for examples.

Since compressibility has to do with electron repulsion, can't atoms themselves be compressed by something? Of course. If gravity is sufficiently strong, it can overcome electron repulsion between atoms. The electrons are forced into the nucleus where they sort of combine with protons to become neutrons (skipping over the nuclear physics here, if you don't mind.) This state is called electron degeneracy. It is what produces a neutron star. If you turned your body into that kind of matter, it would be dense enough to pass through ordinary solid matter like a human body walking through air. It would also be lethal. Not a useful power to have.
 
Jedi with an intense personal connection can communicate emotions across interstellar distances. They can't communicate words or information, just things like 'fear' or 'waiting' or 'joy'.

One thing I never understood was why Jedi can't use their TK to fly. They can Force Push up their feet to make a super jump (like Luke in the carbon freezing chamber in ESB), but why can't they sustain that push to fly through the air?

I actually have an extremely vague recollection of an explanation in one of the novels for this, like they can't use their power on themselves or something like that?
 
What it does it to create a battle network via the Force greatly enhancing the capabilities of a military force and far surpassing anything that can be communicated via technological means.
Does that apply only to the Jedi in the fight? Is it the same "mind-linking" idea among soldierboys (battle robots remotely operated mentally) as in Forever Peace?

I've stopped reading Star Wars at the end of the Yuzhaan Vong invasion series but i believe Battle Meditation can include everybody, not only Jedi.

In the Heir to Empire novels (the first new EU novels) Jorus C'Baoth uses it apparently (though it was not named back then) to improve the combat effectiveness of Admiral Thrawn's forces (and admonishes him when Thrawn asks him something and he basically tells him to fuck off because he needs to concentrate :lol:).

Later on the Solo kids (all Jedi) display it while racing through an asteroid field where it was "officially" introduced as this rare and very powerfull skill (if i even remember correctly.. it's been a couple of years).

Apparently this skill has seen wide retcon into all kinds of Jedi from past to present:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_meditation


This seems like a quite comprehensive list of Jedi Force abilities:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_power
 
Battle meditation does affect everyone, and not just Jedi. It was a big deal in the PC game Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic because one of the Jedi characters, Bastila Shan, had the power of battle meditation, and was using it to help the Republic in their war against the Sith.
 
From the movies there's various forms of telekinesis (yet none of them ever bother to try to fly; they can lift a fucking spaceship out of a swamp, but the best they can do is jump?), post-hypnotic suggestions, force lightning, animal empathy/control, precognition, and clairvoyance. Everything we've seen is a variation of those basic abilities.

If you go by the roleplaying games, expanded universe, etc. just scribble a bunch of words on some paper and throw a dart at it, and it'll come up as a force power.
 
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