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The feeling I got was that we were seeing multiple different Danials, from more that one possible future.
It wasn't one guy.
Speak for yourself. I happen to like sex.
Sexing something up and sex are two different things.
Unless you're from Essex.
The feeling I got was that we were seeing multiple different Danials, from more that one possible future.
It wasn't one guy.
I suspected that, but if it were the case each version of Daniels would be meeting Archer for the first time, wheras he seems to remember all their prior encounters. The only alternate we've definitely met was the one who died in sickbay in "Storm Front".
I'm led to believe Daniels' mission was to keep the 22nd century as close to his version (where the "Shockwave" colony exists, the Xindi never attacked and the Delphic Expanse was around in the 2500's) as possible. Clearly, he failed miserably
.Or maybe alternate Daniels' are merged VOY: "Relativity" style?
Manny Coto was not brought in because B&B were "sacked." He was brought in by B&B to take over the head writing job from them. B&B were still the executive producers. And by that point in the show, UPN finally stopped giving a shit, which is why we got the good stories we got, without their influence.
If UPN fired B&B before Coto ever entered the scene, they would have replaced B&B with someone who would have done what they wanted, without question.
Sexing something up and sex are two different things.
Unless you're from Essex.
There are many ways to write story. The everything nailed down and set up from day one is not the only or even the best way.
You gotta love those execs. Because, you know, that attitude worked so well for VOY.
I always assumed the FG was a Romulan. After seeing Trek 09, it makes sense. they did lose their home world, and may have blamed the Federation for not doing enough. If they could make a DVD movie someday, I would love to see this explored.
yea, daniels could do a lot.. control things, but wasn't used the right way in the show. almost seemed powerful and knowledgable, but then wasn't. seemed clumsy having him involved in the eps, I like the premise, but could have been better.
According to Archer, Daniels made good eggs. Or brought him good eggs. I remember that being a big plot point.
Good eggs and the ability to suck a giant starship back in time to an alternate WWII?
Awesome. He could walk through walls and come back from the dead, too.
He was, of course, taught how to do all of this by Captain Robau.
Awesome. He could walk through walls and come back from the dead, too.
He was, of course, taught how to do all of this by Captain Robau.
That's probably the best TCW-related comment ever made.
If you're the Lost writers and really adept at figuring out stuff on the fly, and making it all look like you had it planned all along, sure, go ahead and wing it. But for the majority of writers that I've paid any attention to, that philosophy results in a train wreck. It requires an unusual combo of imagination and self-discipline.
Well, I think the idea of a general road map for most series is a better idea then a specific point by point story outline. One never knows when an actor will leave the series or the network will become overly involved I imagine. LOST, at least the basic plan, was laid out at the beginning, similarly to Battlestar Galactica, but cast problems in LOST and the writers strike for both series led to changes along the way.
But I agree with you basic point
No offense to the Lost writers ( I was a big fan of the show), but the various big bads of the show ( the Others, Ben, Widmore, Jacob's Brother ect) had an obvious pulled out of thin air feel to them. The advantage they had over some shows is the flashback format that allowed them to plug in various "new" characters into the backstory of the show. The time travel aspect of Enterprise could have been played to a similar advantage had they wanted to seriously pursue the Future Guy storyline. Leaving it open allowed them to plug in a new character or an old one in the role of master villain. Frankly, I think FG was just a bit of "lip service" to keep the suits happy.
ENT started as an episodic show with a loose arc structure. It really didnt need to be as tightly plotted as shows where the arc/mythology is the main attraction.
True, but I was talking about how the show was set up, not the quality of its writing. Worse shows than Enterprise have lasted longer and better shows have gotten the axe sooner. I was kind of burned out on the arc/myth based format when ENT started and I was glad to see a more episodic based show at the time. (which is why I'm not a big fan of Season 3)^ Its low ratings and cancellation might disagree with you about that last bit.
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I always liked the "temporal cold war' ideea introduced in star trek: enterprise.
Why?
Because it's plausible, indeed, inevitable in a star trek like universe, where time travel into the past exists.
Much like the real world cold war was all but inevitable in a world with two opposing superpowers armed with nuclear weapons.
Consider:
What would happen if two powers have the ability to travel into the past? Each power would have the ability to destroy the other by changing the past.
And how could you prevent your own destruction? Only by making sure that, should an attack against you undo your past, you will be equally lethal against your opponent - by having temporal agents stationed into the past, ready to strike.
Considering how even for 23rd/24th century powers time travel was a reality, one could speculate that this temporal cold war was already being fought between these powers - its front lines, strategies and tactics taking shape.
Only, of course, all this was happening behind the scenes, much like time travelling technology was still secret.
It's unlikely that 29th century political actors started this temporal cold war.
Why?
Because it's plausible, indeed, inevitable in a star trek like universe, where time travel into the past exists.
Much like the real world cold war was all but inevitable in a world with two opposing superpowers armed with nuclear weapons.
Consider:
What would happen if two powers have the ability to travel into the past? Each power would have the ability to destroy the other by changing the past.
And how could you prevent your own destruction? Only by making sure that, should an attack against you undo your past, you will be equally lethal against your opponent - by having temporal agents stationed into the past, ready to strike.
Considering how even for 23rd/24th century powers time travel was a reality, one could speculate that this temporal cold war was already being fought between these powers - its front lines, strategies and tactics taking shape.
Only, of course, all this was happening behind the scenes, much like time travelling technology was still secret.
It's unlikely that 29th century political actors started this temporal cold war.
^ But it was handled so badly. I was so glad when it ended. Especially with time travelling space nazis
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