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%18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing facts

LitmusDragon

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America the Ignorant (Linky)

Among the other ignorant things Americans believe as highlighted in the linked article ...

%21 believe there are real sorcerors, conjurers, and warlocks out there
%20 believe that the sun revolves around the Earth
More than 1/3rd can't identify which continent the Amazon river is located on

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

To be fair, I myself couldn't name two of the supreme court justices (#8) but I can in fact name most of the 7 dwarves. :shifty:
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

The fact that so many people still think Obama is a Muslim disturbs me. What is even more disturbing is that the number has gone up and not down.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

I wonder if it's the same ~20% that believes these things.

One in five people as a moron. Sounds about right.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

He didn't go to that church he went to for as long as he did and be able to call himself a Christian, that much just doesn't make sense, you can't hear those kind of sermons and still call yourself a Christian, sorry. I'm not saying he hasn't now made the choice to become one, but back then, at that church, it just doesn't make sense to me that he spent so long there listening to that.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

I saw the poll results regarding Obama's faith last night on the news. All in all, an utterly depressing article.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

The fact that so many people still think Obama is a Muslim disturbs me. What is even more disturbing is that the number has gone up and not down.

Obama's a Muslim?

Huh.

What's next? People believe he's the president?
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

He didn't go to that church he went to for as long as he did and be able to call himself a Christian, that much just doesn't make sense, you can't hear those kind of sermons and still call yourself a Christian, sorry. I'm not saying he hasn't now made the choice to become one, but back then, at that church, it just doesn't make sense to me that he spent so long there listening to that.

Who died and made you arbiter of who is and isn't Christian?

Also, I think 20% of people just like fucking with pollsters.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

I can see the debate about evolution having problems in religious corners of the US, but the sun orbiting around the Earth? As they said, didn't we sort this out in the 16th century?
 
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Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

I don't know what the percentage is, but shockingly some Trek BBS posters write percentages like this- %18, rather than this- 18%

;)
 
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I can see the debate about evolution having problems in religious corners of the US, but the sun orbiting around the sun? As they said, didn't we sort this out in the 16th century?
We have a binary sun now?

I'd really like to know the size and makeup of the poll sample and how the questions were phrased. Even in America, I'm skeptical that 20% of the population believes the sun revolves around the earth. I mean, they still teach science in school, right? And even the Catholic Church got around to exonerating Galileo. It only took them 400 years.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

He didn't go to that church he went to for as long as he did and be able to call himself a Christian, that much just doesn't make sense, you can't hear those kind of sermons and still call yourself a Christian, sorry. I'm not saying he hasn't now made the choice to become one, but back then, at that church, it just doesn't make sense to me that he spent so long there listening to that.

You heard one 15 second clip repeated over and over on Fox Noise and think you know what Rev. Wright preached over a 20 year span. That is the height of self-delusional ignorance. Did you know that he was quoting another writer when he said "God damn America"? I doubt if the facts will change your mind.

BTW, Jeremiah Wright served in both the Navy and the Marines and received three medals for heroism. Look it up. I think his patriotism is beyond doubt.
 
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I don't know why one should be expected to know the religious affiliation (if any) of another. More distressing is the proportion of those who care.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

I don't know why one should be expected to know the religious affiliation (if any) of another. More distressing is the proportion of those who care.

Agreed.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

Under Muslim law Obama is definitely a Muslim, since his father was a Muslim. And since Obama is a Muslim under Muslim law, he must observe Muslim law and recognize his Muslimity, since he's under Muslim law because he's a Muslim, and he's a Muslim because he's under Muslim law which says he's a Muslim because his father was.

<return to beginning of sentence and repeat. Also try it backwards>

Anyway, if he's not a Muslim, why does he celebrate Ramadan with an Iftar dinner?

On Whitehouse.gov - President Obama Celebrates Ramadan White House Iftar Dinner.

Celebrating Ramadam is something Muslims due, mainly because they're Muslims. Perhaps a small percentage of people celebrate Ramadan because they like fasting, but those are weirdos, and Obama doesn't seem to like fasting. In fact, he seems to like eating greasy burgers at every opportunity. So this suggests that Obama is a practicing fasting Muslim, still obeying Muslim law because Muslim law says he's a Muslim.
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

My father's side of my family is Muslim, they consider me Muslim. Except there's one problem: I don't believe in God. I don't care what they consider me. I'm not religious and I don't practice religion. Period.

Same principle applies to Obama: it doesn't matter if anyone else considers him Muslim. Does he consider himself Muslim, does he practice Islam? If the answer to both of those is no, then he's not.

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An important part of the article you linked to that's being overlooked. It's at the beginning too. I'll highlight the relevant points.

Last night, President Obama continued the White House tradition of hosting an Iftar - the meal that breaks the day of fasting - celebrating Ramadan in the State Dining Room.
Continued the tradition. Is Bush muslim? Is Clinton? Is Bush Sr? Was Reagan? Is Carter?
 
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Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

^^ My Catholic family says the same thing about me. I have to be Catholic because I was born that way. :rommie:
 
Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac

Under Muslim law Obama is definitely a Muslim, since his father was a Muslim. And since Obama is a Muslim under Muslim law, he must observe Muslim law and recognize his Muslimity, since he's under Muslim law because he's a Muslim, and he's a Muslim because he's under Muslim law which says he's a Muslim because his father was.
The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!
 
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