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CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till release

Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

fuck the haters.
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Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

Love the poster, love the costume (the suspenders are still :wtf: but what the hey), and the director seems like he understands the character. Cap was never intended to be a mindless flag-waving type. He knew what he was fighting for.
 
Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

fuck the haters.

I propose a moratorium on this mindless ghetto-speak term. I understand that it is shorthand for "I'm incapable of presenting the merits of my position so I will attempt to undermine yours by dismissing it," but it really does bespeak an embarrassing intellectual shortfall that stymies the desire to engage in discourse here.

very well.

if you must be so churlishly dismissive before even seeing so much as a single frame of celluloid on the screen, why must you post here? your relentless negativity is very wearing and i find the repetitive dismissal of any change from the original comics to be annoying and juvenile. your persistant hatred for any deviation from pre-established comics and their continuity are entirely symptomatic of all that is wrong with the comics industry and its fanbase - namely a desire to cling to the past and a never-ending nostalgia for all that has gone before, never allowing new talent to take characters in a new direction for more than a short period before retconning the story back to the old status quo or shoving it off to one side as part of some 'other world' story that doesn't affect current continuity.

frankly, sir, you are boring.

or, to put it more bluntly: fuck the haters.
 
Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

I propose a moratorium on this mindless ghetto-speak term. I understand that it is shorthand for "I'm incapable of presenting the merits of my position so I will attempt to undermine yours by dismissing it," but it really does bespeak an embarrassing intellectual shortfall that stymies the desire to engage in discourse here.
AWOOGA! PSEUD ALERT! AWOOGA!
 
Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

The suspenders are lame but other than that I love the costume. That poster kicks ass.
 
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Sorry, is this, like, better?
As opposed to faux intellectual superiority and judging-a-book-by-its-cover conclusions? Yeah, it's miles better actually.

We may be evaluated here only by our words. I'll not apologize for refusing to stoop to the lowest common denominator. I do not claim intellectual superiority to anyone simply because I am capable (as are many others here) of using the language we've all agreed upon correctly. While I do frequently engage in the vernacular for effect, I'm hardly "putting on airs" when I simply write correctly. I'm hardly whipping out the old Roget's to find le mot juste. I rarely even use words that can't be found in your local newspaper. In an era in which schools are accepting papers written in text-speak, we are far too forgiving of those native English speakers who are unable to use the language correctly.

The term "hater" is thoroughly entrenched under my skin, and I am quite serious in urging that it be dropped. Let it go the way of "bling".
 
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Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

fuck the haters.

I propose a moratorium on this mindless ghetto-speak term. ....

very well...
See, was that so hard?
or, to put it more bluntly: fuck the haters.
Guess so.

[personal attacks omitted]your persistant hatred for any deviation from pre-established comics
You are mistaken. I harbor no hatred, and you obviously don't know me from Adam.
and their continuity are entirely symptomatic of all that is wrong with the comics industry and its fanbase -
mmmkay, so by your logic the fans are wrong to ask for what they want, and the industry is wrong to give it to them. Brilliant!
namely a desire to cling to the past and a never-ending nostalgia for all that has gone before, never allowing new talent to take characters in a new direction for more than a short period before retconning the story back to the old status quo or shoving it off to one side as part of some 'other world' story that doesn't affect current continuity.

Again a misstatement, but to address the actual point: they're making him a USO performer - a clown - in order to justify a costume which needs no justification. It's "truth, justice, and all that other stuff" all over again. They clearly have no faith in the source material, the way Raimi did (most of whose changes I well embraced for purposes of the movie). This SWAT team look is simply a manifestation of that lack of faith.
frankly, sir, you are boring.
I love you too.




I don't wanna be pantsed. :(

Maybe Captain America will lend you his nifty new suspenders.
 
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Some things just don't work when translated from page to screen. This is true for nearly all adaptations, and Cap is no different. No one cared when they changed Cap's look in the Ultimate comics, and no one important will care about his big screen look deviating from classic.
 
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yeah, but Beaker wants him as he was, goofy wings and all. hell, he probably still hates Singer for not using the yellow spandex Wolverine suit with the stupid wings on the mask and knees and yes, beaker, i do know you. you generate a persistant annoying whine whenever news about comic-book movies comes out and doesn't comply to the original vision.

afterall, you're the one who had 'Post Crisis doesn't count' in his sig for a long time...
 
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The character of Howard Stark has been cast. This is the third actor to play the character in the three movies the character has been in.
To be fair, those three films illustrate three time periods for the character.

-In Iron Man, played by Gerard Sanders, Howard was depicted as an elderly man in his early to late 70's around the time of his death. As Obadiah Stane pointed out in the film, he helped build the atomic bomb in the Manhattan Project(1944).

-In Iron Man 2, played by John Slattery, Howard is about 45-50...
...in 1974. Howard is developing the Arc reactor. However, he lacked the element that was needed to make the reactor a "clean" technology(palladium was used in both the reactor in Stark's factory and in the first of Tony's mini-arc designs) because the technology that was used to create the element didn't exist at the time. Howard knew the molecular design for the element, and so he hid the design inside designs for the Stark Expo in that year. Tony built a particle accelerator inside his lab to create the element and cure his palladium poisoning.

-In Captain America, being played by a recently casted Dominic Cooper, not much is known about film outside of the fact that it was set in WWII(1939-1945). This film covers the Manhattan Project which Howard worked on.
 
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yeah, but Beaker wants him as he was, goofy wings and all. hell, he probably still hates Singer for not using the yellow spandex Wolverine suit with the stupid wings on the mask and knees and yes, beaker, i do know you. you generate a persistant annoying whine whenever news about comic-book movies comes out and doesn't comply to the original vision.

afterall, you're the one who had 'Post Crisis doesn't count' in his sig for a long time...

Orange. And it doesn't. As DC seems to agree. They've wisely done a whole lot of backpedaling since that was my sig.

The ad hominem attacks are getting old. Is everyone just supposed to agree with you? That's not discussion, that's a circle jerk.

I thought the costume was the one good thing about the 1990 movie. You disagree. Am I supposed to start calling you names now?
 
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I can live with the costume, though as stated before I have a couple nitpicks with its design. I'm more curious about how they will portray Cap in the film. With the post Band of Brothers/Saving Private Ryan view of WWII Cap is often show as a boots on the ground, storming the beach, charging the hill, taking the town type soldier who just happens to be wrapped in the flag. Previously his missions ( as seen in the comics) was more counter-espionage and occasionally behind the lines specials ops. From the GA stories I've read he mostly operated Stateside. Part me has a hard time seeing the War Department send Cap out with a regular Infantry or even a Rangers unit. Doesnt seem like the best way to use him.
 
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yeah, but Beaker wants him as he was, goofy wings and all. hell, he probably still hates Singer for not using the yellow spandex Wolverine suit with the stupid wings on the mask and knees and yes, beaker, i do know you. you generate a persistant annoying whine whenever news about comic-book movies comes out and doesn't comply to the original vision.

afterall, you're the one who had 'Post Crisis doesn't count' in his sig for a long time...

Orange. And it doesn't. As DC seems to agree. They've wisely done a whole lot of backpedaling since that was my sig.

The ad hominem attacks are getting old. Is everyone just supposed to agree with you? That's not discussion, that's a circle jerk.

I thought the costume was the one good thing about the 1990 movie. You disagree. Am I supposed to start calling you names now?

you're entitled to say the movie sucks. once you've seen it or at least seen a trailer. until you see it, you can't justifiably say it sucks on the basis of pre-production art work and conceptual designs. that's just stupid.
 
Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

The costume is not bad.
Frankly it may end up being among the least things to concern ourselves with.

Next summer is once again a crowded time for SuperHero films, the most since 2008 when there were 6: Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, The Dark Knight, Wanted, Hellboy 2 and Hancock. I know Hancock isn't an adaptation but it counts.

Summer 2011 sees 6 superhero films: Thor, Priest, X-Men:First Class, Green Lantern, Captain America:First Avenger and Cowboys&Aliens

What concerns me about Caps chances for success are not how accurate his costume is to the source. I'm thinking about audiences getting superhero overdose by the time Cap roles around + Cap opens the weekend following Harry Potter: Deathly Hollows pt.2(aka the last HP film) + Pirates 4, TFormers 3, F&Furious 5 & Cars 2 among others. Next summer is going to be brutal and Cap will be opening in the thick of it. Thor is lucky to have the opening slot in May where the IM, X-Men & Spidey films have all done well. Cap could pull Hulk numbers, that's what I'm looking at as of now. XM:FC is the first Xfilm to open as deep into summer as it is.
 
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It'll be interesting to see how the marketing for The Avengers will be affected if either the Cap or Thor movies (or both) underachieve. My guess is that the film will be promoted as essentially Iron Man 3, even if the script does not heavily feature IM.
 
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