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Spock & Uhura romance

Why do many want to revise romance into TOS so much?

I never said there was a full blown romance between them. I don't think that ever occurred, (although maybe it did and maybe it ended). But they were a bit flirty with each other, especially with Uhura seeming to be pursuing him a bit. Come on, it's kind of obvious. Especially with the "Vulcan has no moon" scene.
 
It's the same behavior many women exhibit with their gay or devotedly married friends. Uhura was free to tease Spock simply because he wasn't going to lust after her.

Think of the scene in Charlie X where Uhura teases Charlie in a similar way. Rand gives Uhura a look that clearly says "Don't put ideas in this kid's head - he'll act on them!"
 
It's the same behavior many women exhibit with their gay or devotedly married friends. Uhura was free to tease Spock simply because he wasn't going to lust after her.

Think of the scene in Charlie X where Uhura teases Charlie in a similar way. Rand gives Uhura a look that clearly says "Don't put ideas in this kid's head - he'll act on them!"

Well, you can't read the characters' minds, and if you want to interpret it that way, it's perfectly fine. But as for me, I'm going for the more straightforward explanation. She wanted some of that.

And i'd like to note Spock's "hot under the collar" tug of his uniform. I think he did too. hee hee.
 
It's the same behavior many women exhibit with their gay or devotedly married friends. Uhura was free to tease Spock simply because he wasn't going to lust after her.

Think of the scene in Charlie X where Uhura teases Charlie in a similar way. Rand gives Uhura a look that clearly says "Don't put ideas in this kid's head - he'll act on them!"

Many of the main characters teased Spock, especially about having no emotions. McCoy lights up when hears about a Teddy Bear and the very first opening scene in WNMHGB shows a Kirk teasing Spock about irritation.

I was impressed that Uhura was NOT intimidated by Spock and did not have a crush on him. Smart woman!! If I were there I'd be weak kneed around him and very intimidated. I admired that Uhura had more sense than the rest of us!!
 
WTF? I'm more impressed with the idea of Uhura a) zeroing in on Spock like a photon torpedo and b) getting her man.

That's what I'd do if I were a student in Xenolinguistics 101! :rommie:
 
I love it how all of a sudden we've DEFINITIVELY CONCLUDED that Uhura didn't have a crush on him in TOS, as in seeing the scene how we want to see it. Mind readers all.
 
Scotty and Mira Romaine

Kirk SPECIFICALLY notes that he's going to have to lose one of them.
"I like to think I'm not so much losing an officer as gaining...
come to think of it, I'm losing an officer."

The quote you've listed above actually comes from Who Mourns for Adonais. And it seems you've taken it out of context.

KIRK: Bones, could you get that excited over a cup of coffee?
MCCOY: Even from here I can tell his pulse rate's up.
SCOTT: Gentlemen. Come along, my dear.
MCCOY: I'm not sure I like that, Jim.
KIRK: Why, Bones? Scotty's a good man.
MCCOY: And he thinks he's the right man for her, but I'm not sure she thinks he's the right man. On the other hand, she's a woman. All woman. One day she'll find the right man and off she'll go, out of the service.
KIRK: I like to think of it not so much losing an officer as gaining
SCOTT: Come along.
(He and Carolyn enter the turbolift.)
KIRK: Actually, I'm losing an officer.

Seems like the thought is that when she finds the right man she'll be leaving the service. Regardless of who the right man is.
 
And I'd like to add that since they clearly fell for each other in an alternative universe, it seems very plausible to me that they at least had some feelings for each other in the original universe, even if those feelings went unrealized. Yes, it's a little bit of retconning, but I LOVE IT!!!!!!
 
And I'd like to add that since they clearly fell for each other in an alternative universe, it seems very plausible to me that they at least had some feelings for each other in the original universe, even if those feelings went unrealized. Yes, it's a little bit of retconning, but I LOVE IT!!!!!!

Except that Spock tries not to have feelings, denies and fights them. THAT is what I found interesting - the internal conflict. Don't want another typical romance in outer space. Bet the slashers are sad that they didn't retcon THAT into it. Loved the episodic romances though. Kept TOS focused more on ideas.
 
Except that Spock tries not to have feelings, denies and fights them. THAT is what I found interesting - the internal conflict. Don't want another typical romance in outer space.
I totally agree. What made Spock so interesting was the conflict between his human half and his Vulcan half, and the fact that he wanted to be all Vulcan and sometimes was not quite able to. A typical romance with hugs and kisses on the transporter pad undermines the character, makes him more comfortable with his emotional half and thus less interesting.
 
I love it how all of a sudden we've DEFINITIVELY CONCLUDED that Uhura didn't have a crush on him in TOS, as in seeing the scene how we want to see it. Mind readers all.

They're characters being performed by actors. It's not mind reading; just the opposite: the actors are attempting to convey exactly what their characters' motivations are.
 
Scotty and Mira Romaine

Kirk SPECIFICALLY notes that he's going to have to lose one of them.
"I like to think I'm not so much losing an officer as gaining...
come to think of it, I'm losing an officer."

The quote you've listed above actually comes from Who Mourns for Adonais.


You're right. My mistake. I was confusing Scotty's two love interests.
As for Romaine and Scotty, she wasn't under his command.


What about Kirk, the Federation's representative to the cosmos, letching over every alien female he comes across?

I've seen every episode of Star Trek TOS.

This is contradictory.
I imagine you've taken English classes, too, and yet...


I have yet to see Beaker's Abridged Star Trek, with all it's missing episodes and scenes.

The possessive form of it does not have an apostrophe.
 
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What about Kirk, the Federation's representative to the cosmos, letching over every alien female he comes across?

Have you ever actually watched the series?

I've seen every episode of Star Trek TOS. I have yet to see Beaker's Abridged Star Trek, with all it's missing episodes and scenes.

:lol:

I've seen all of them many times - starting long before some of the participants here were born.

And I think some of the folks who picked the show up when it was in syndication would be amazed at how these characters were perceived when the show was running on NBC. Spock's perceived sexiness was a major contributor to the show's - and character's - public profile.
 
Kirk SPECIFICALLY notes that he's going to have to lose one of them.
"I like to think I'm not so much losing an officer as gaining...
come to think of it, I'm losing an officer."

The quote you've listed above actually comes from Who Mourns for Adonais.


You're right. My mistake. I was confusing Scotty's two love interests.
As for Romaine and Scotty, she wasn't under his command.




I've seen every episode of Star Trek TOS.

This is contradictory.
I imagine you've taken English classes, too, and yet...


I have yet to see Beaker's Abridged Star Trek, with all it's missing episodes and scenes.

The possessive form of it does not have an apostrophe.

Cute, but this furthers your argument how?
 
The quote you've listed above actually comes from Who Mourns for Adonais.


You're right. My mistake. I was confusing Scotty's two love interests.
As for Romaine and Scotty, she wasn't under his command.






This is contradictory.
I imagine you've taken English classes, too, and yet...


I have yet to see Beaker's Abridged Star Trek, with all it's missing episodes and scenes.

The possessive form of it does not have an apostrophe.

Cute, but this furthers your argument how?

Not in the slightest; since his argument fails on the facts misdirection is necessary.

Some people simply don't want certain reasonable opinions and interpretions to be possible - such as the early indications of a flirtation between Spock and Uhura on TOS - and work backward from a desired conclusion to construct an argument that rules those interpretations out.

That won't work.
 
I can see Uhurateasing Spock because it is safe and she knows that the would be no consequences due to it.
TOS Spock could not see himself in a relationship with a human, because he thinks of himself as Vulcan, and a relatonship with a human would not help him mantain his Disciplines
 
It's the same behavior many women exhibit with their gay or devotedly married friends. Uhura was free to tease Spock simply because he wasn't going to lust after her.

Think of the scene in Charlie X where Uhura teases Charlie in a similar way. Rand gives Uhura a look that clearly says "Don't put ideas in this kid's head - he'll act on them!"

Many of the main characters teased Spock, especially about having no emotions. McCoy lights up when hears about a Teddy Bear and the very first opening scene in WNMHGB shows a Kirk teasing Spock about irritation.

I was impressed that Uhura was NOT intimidated by Spock and did not have a crush on him. Smart woman!! If I were there I'd be weak kneed around him and very intimidated. I admired that Uhura had more sense than the rest of us!!
So you've concluded that she didn't have a crush on him, based on the evidence... that she acted flirty with him? :rommie: :vulcan:

Why would she need to be intimidated by him or "weak kneed" if she had a crush on him? Maybe she was attracted to him and not intimidated at all? Maybe she teased him because she found him attractive and intriguing but was also somewhat annoyed by his Vulcan attitude and wanted to see if she could get him to lose his cool? But she wasn't Nurse Chapel to mope around and since he wasn't responsive, she just didn't pursue it any further.

And BTW... that "Vulcan has no moon" scene is another obvious example of Spock showing emotions while trying hard not to show them. First he's obviously uncomfortable (tucking at his collar) before he takes an opportunity to shut down the conversation with the "Vulcan has no moon" line. Then when she (apparently already somewhat annoyed) starts berating him for his lack of emotional reaction to the crewman's death, he gets obviously angry and snaps at her. Just look at the grumpy expression on his face.
 
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