This is an awful idea. Any rapist who experienced this would beat the shit out of, or possibly kill, the woman. I don't see how this would solve anything, to be honset.
Female Condom Unveiled For World Cup
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Amaris
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I am fully in favor of these women being protected, however, I'm not certain if this is the best way to go about it. As I stated prior, I fully support the reasoning behind this issue. What I am being cautious toward is the propensity for abuse that could (and certainly would) come about because of this device. I am also speaking in terms aside from the plight facing South African women, and focusing also on 1st world nations where this device will most certainly be distributed.
I'm talking about caution in using such a device. I am not indicting the women who need it, or making light of the subject matter.
I would assume he'd be in too much pain and shock to gather the strength or will to beat the woman after the thing "grasps" onto him. I mean, would he really be able to chase after a fleeing woman when there's a condom of evil biting into his cock?
Couldn't happen for so many reasons. Not the least of which being over-the-counter "sedatives don't work like that" and "alergic reactions."
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According to the article, he will not be able to walk or urinate, so I doubt he's going to have the wherewithal to do anything once it locks on.
Vagina Dentata fears reborn!
Quite.
The thing about something like this is that it seems so logical, so right. At first. It taps into a deep vein of righteous anger. The implication soon arises that anyone who is against the use of a device like this (for whatever reason) is therefore in favor of rapists, and that is a dangerous road to go down.
No one in this thread, or on this board in general, wants rape to occur, or anything like that. But where does this end? Do rapists deserve to be mutilated and even killed? Is it proven that no permanent damage could arise from this device? If it were, would anyone care, or be allowed to care?
Not always effective, you have to be able to get to it and use all without the guy stopping you or simply knocking it away and afterwards the guy can still get to you. I mean, pepper spray has been around for decades and, I believe, in most places not too tightly controled. Rapes still happen, as TSQ has pointed out, by the thousands.
I don't think this device would stop rapes either but it may do the most work in making rapists "think twice" before doing it and certainly after being caught by one. (That is, once he gets out of jail.)
Despite the possiblity for abuse I think this device is a good thing and I hope courts and groups in Western Nations (specificially Canada, the US and Europe) don't flip-their-shits over wanting to protect the penises of potential rapists. At the same time, however, much like all devices made for self-protection there's the possibility here for abuse and accidents.
I dunno, perhaps something a little more "refined" that's not so... mutilating. What kind of "surgery" is invovled in removing this thing? Is it like the kind of surgery with a general anesthesia, masks and an operating room or is it more like the "surgery" involved with getting an in-grown toenail removed? (Where the world implies a lot more than what is really happening.)
Would it be possible to make the device so that the woman can remove it from the man if there is an accident then all the guy has to do is go to the hospital and get cleaned up and maybe stitched/glued up?
Does it need to have these "teeth" couldn't have, I dunno, some-kind-of glue or something that latches on and burns the skin painfully like pepper spray does?
I think this device can be good but I wouldn't say it's the perfect "mousetrap" if you will. I think they can build a better one.
It's probably going to be more effective than this. It doesn't always have to be effective. No weapon is, but some are better than others.
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There are thousands of cases where men are raped each year. In the instances where men are raped by women, would it not be logical to have, perhaps, some kind of spray or thin protective covering a man could wear on his penis that, when it comes in contact with the vagina, causes a severe burning sensation that would be "technically" harmless, but would cause incapacitating pain to the assailant that would last several hours, where only a Doctor with the proper antidote could relieve the pain in less time? The assailant would not be able to walk or urinate due to the nature of the pain, and the victim would be able to escape and call the police.
Due to the growing and shrinking aspect of the penis, I would think such a device wouldn't work very well
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Do to the growing and shrinking aspect of the penis, I would think such a device wouldn't work very well
Perhaps, but if possible, should such a method of protection be readily available to all men?
If they want to use it sure. A can of mace would be better though. A taser even more so.
Do to the growing and shrinking aspect of the penis, I would think such a device wouldn't work very well
Perhaps, but if possible, should such a method of protection be readily available to all men?
Presence of mind? You act as if rapists are in some kind of manic state. There is a pretty good chance this would enrage the rapist, and yeah, more violence will ensue.
I also think it's a crock that a doctor would be required to remove this thing. Granted, all I have is a bit of experience with the organs involved and a couple of photos to go by, but it seems like you'd just cut the thing open from base to tip (a pocket knife looks like it would do) and remove it by opening it up. Granted, you don't want a knife down there too often, but it doesn't look like anything too complicated.
So...yeah, bad idea all around. The worst consequence is having something like this lull someone into doing risky things in dangerous areas at the wrong time of day/night with a false sense of protection.
Without going into detail (not that I recall the specific substance) but I "discovered" a substance that was organic (food based actually) and caused quite a bit of discomfort with just the residue left over. No doctor was required, but it pretty much ended the evening until a thorough shower.
I am not generally in favor of any sort of weapon, as they do tend to escalate already tense situations. The mere presence of a gun in nonviolent circumstances has been proven to cause people to behave more aggressively. When I first read about the anti-rape condom my initial concerns were whether or not it would indeed only exacerbate the violence of the crime, and ultimately be worse for the victim, a possibility others have pointed out. I simply do not know enough about the device, and its consequences in real life to make up my mind as yet as to whether or not I think it is a good thing. My protests earlier were not against people questioning the device from that standpoint, but the silly remarks about it potentially making little Lorena Bobbits out of bitter housewives throughout the Western world. That implies a severe lack of perspective, as I already stated.
Then there was raised the issue of male rape, which, of course, does happen and is just as awful as the rape of a woman. It is also irrelevant to this issue. We are not talking about male rape, we are talking about female rape. But since you brought up the subject, let's again try to put things into perspective: How often do you men actually fear being raped? Does the thought, "I shouldn't go there/be here because I might be raped" occur to you once every few months? Once every few weeks? Every night?
How often are you sexually assaulted, verbally or physically? Once a month? Once a week? Several times a day? Because I am verbally sexually harassed every day, as are many if not most young women in NYC. Physical harassment, as in having any part of my body grabbed (including my hair, my neck, my breasts, my buttocks, and, less intrusively but just as unwanted, my arms and legs), it averages out to about once a year. This is typical.
Again, I do not intend to downplay the sexual assault of men and male rape. Men do get raped, and, rarely, they get raped by women. However, I think, again, some perspective is required. Let's return to the country where this device was developed -- the threat of rape to women there is constant. Almost half the male population are repeat rapists. I'm sorry, but one really cannot compare the necessity of protection against rape for a woman in that environment to that of a man anywhere in the world (except maybe prison). I hate to say it again, but to do so shows a severe lack of perspective or understanding of reality.
This is a last resort defense.
Then there was raised the issue of male rape, which, of course, does happen and is just as awful as the rape of a woman. It is also irrelevant to this issue. We are not talking about male rape, we are talking about female rape. But since you brought up the subject, let's again try to put things into perspective: How often do you men actually fear being raped? Does the thought, "I shouldn't go there/be here because I might be raped" occur to you once every few months? Once every few weeks? Every night?
How often are you sexually assaulted, verbally or physically? Once a month? Once a week? Several times a day? Because I am verbally sexually harassed every day, as are many if not most young women in NYC. Physical harassment, as in having any part of my body grabbed (including my hair, my neck, my breasts, my buttocks, and, less intrusively but just as unwanted, my arms and legs), it averages out to about once a year. This is typical.
Again, I do not intend to downplay the sexual assault of men and male rape. Men do get raped, and, rarely, they get raped by women. However, I think, again, some perspective is required. Let's return to the country where this device was developed -- the threat of rape to women there is constant. Almost half the male population are repeat rapists. I'm sorry, but one really cannot compare the necessity of protection against rape for a woman in that environment to that of a man anywhere in the world (except maybe prison). I hate to say it again, but to do so shows a severe lack of perspective or understanding of reality.
Of course they wouldn't. Think about it, will a woman really feel lulled into a sense of false security knowing that her rapist will only be able to forcibly penetrate her once instead of over and over? That's just silly.
This is a last resort defense.
Rii
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How much chasing do you think is required to catch a woman whom one is currently penetrating? All that's required is the muscular coordination to maintain a dynamic one was evidently physiologically superior enough to engineer - a rather more difficult task - in the first place.
Might the victim be able to escape? Sure. Better than even odds, maybe. That doesn't make it a good idea, given that if the attempt fails then all one has achieved is a significant escalation of the situation. The time for active resistance is before penetration has occurred. This device could've been supplied by Q to 007, having about as much chance of working in the real world as most of his toys.
The value of this device isn't in impeding an assault by a rapist upon a woman fitted with it, but in deterring assaults by rapists against women who could be fitted with it. So long as there exists the perception - real or manufactured - that a significant proportion of women are fitted with the device, potential rapists will be less inclined to prey on any woman they encounter. The actual wearing or not wearing of the device by any particular woman is near irrelevant to its efficacy.
Pretty sure that any male with needles embedded in his penis is going to be in some kind of 'state'.
Even then, I don't think it would prevent much. I imagine if a rapist is doing his thing, it wouldn't take too much effort on his part to do a check with his hands or something before he continues. I do agree though, if a woman is to take any action against an a rapist their chances are much greater beforepenetration. Once that happens the attacker has already closed in close enough that they can probably kill the victim rather easily.
Angela 0077
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Yes l was thinking of the same thing.
There are women out there who could get nasty and if this invention goes right arround the world that issue could happen if it gets into the wrong hands
I do think this type of thing should be given only through docters advice not over the shelf like the male condom.
Also l was just thinking of anther problem too.
What if a woman is gang raped it would only pretect her from one man but the rest would be able to have there own way with a woman.