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What is Your Favorite Mirror Universe Episode?

What is Your Favorite Mirror Universe Episode?


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Luther Sloan

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The Mirror Universe within Star Trek has always been a fun outlet for the writers and fans alike. It explored the characters we know in a way that was totally opposite of what we know of them. In fact, it showed us that there are other universes in the Trek-verse, all of which are not too pretty or ideal.

Anyways, if you have have a favorite Mirror Universe episode, please vote for your favorite MU episode and tell us why you feel it is the best.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

~LS.
 
Emperor's New Cloak, no contest. It's the only one that I enjoy even a little. I thought it was a fun trip, and enjoyed bizarro Ezri. It's the only MU ep that...really, is in any way entertaining, which is due in part to having a lot of comedy in it. I also thought there was a great Quark moment in this one, showing that he does have some loyalties where he tells MU Ezri, "There's nothing to understand. He's my Nagus."

I think the MU is a stupid idea to begin with, and it's hysterical how TOS, ENT, and most of the DS9 ones play it seriously.
 
TOS Mirror Mirror for sure. A fantastic episode with great impact.

I was always a bit disappointed with the DS9 ones (other than Bad Ezri who was superb). Best of them was The Emperor's New Cloak because of the comedic element which was very enjoyable, a great romp.

ENT's have grown on me, I do like seeing Archer in the green shirt and the set of a Constitution class starship. The tie in to TOS with the Defiant was excellent. But all machinations and evil hissing of the MU crew was tedious. Yeah we get, you are eeeevil..
 
I've only seen the DS9 ones recently so I can't really say about the ones off the other treks. I liked all the DS9 mirror universe episodes because of Intendant Kira so I'd hafta pick Crossover for its Major/Intendant scenes.
 
Mirror, Mirror by far. Outside of TOS I could never really take the Mirror Episodes seriously. In the DS9 mirror episodes Intendant Kira is just too ridiculous for words, just way too over the top, and I stopped watching ENT by the time Mirror Darkly was shown so I can't comment.

I think 'Parallels' was the best 'alternative universe' episode Star Trek ever produced.
 
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In A Mirror Darkly. Has Trek ever been as fanboyishly cool as this before? It's probably not objectively in Trek's all time greatest eps, but as a continuity fest, its a damn entertaining romp.

Mirror, Mirror comes in second.
 
For me, it would either be Mirror Mirror, or In a Mirror Darkly.

I'd say IaMD just edges it for me:)
 
Much like Voyager, I think Enterprise did well when it had writers/producers who really cared about the specific series, as opposed to "teh franchise".
 
Through the Looking Glass

I just thought it was fun, especially Sisko at the end. Also, it brought back Jennifer, which is a very good thing.
 
Emperor's New Cloak, no contest. It's the only one that I enjoy even a little. I thought it was a fun trip, and enjoyed bizarro Ezri. It's the only MU ep that...really, is in any way entertaining, which is due in part to having a lot of comedy in it. I also thought there was a great Quark moment in this one, showing that he does have some loyalties where he tells MU Ezri, "There's nothing to understand. He's my Nagus."

I think the MU is a stupid idea to begin with, and it's hysterical how TOS, ENT, and most of the DS9 ones play it seriously.
I think that this is exactly the mistake that DS9 writers did - believing that the Mirror Universe is a silly idea that should only be used for comedy, overacting, dressing up, girl-on-girl action and silliness. This is what lead them to turn the MU into crap, as seen most obviously in the horrible episode "Emperor's New Cloak". And don't get me started on the whole "evil bisexuals/lesbians" thing... :shifty: :rolleyes:

Mirror Universe, as seen in TOS "Mirror, Mirror", is actually a brilliant and very interesting idea, and can lead to wonderful stories if taken seriously - that in a parallel universe, under different circumstances, our heroes could have developed completely differently, that instead of peaceful explorers, the human race and its allies could have become ruthless conquerors, and that the people we know could not be the same if they grew up and lived in a barbarian dog-eat-dog world. Terran Empire is basically the dark side of the Federation, of humanity and of the heroes of the show. ENT "In A Mirror, Darkly" elaborates on that. DS9 "Crossover" threw an interesting twist - the idea that Spock's reforms of the Terran Empire lead to Humans becoming slaves, and it was suitably dark and creepy - though I always had the problem with the Intendant, since I could never buy her as an alternate, dark version of Kira, only as another character played by the same actress. If only DS9 had stopped after that episode, or after the first 2 episodes... the MU on DS9 later turned into a joke. And, really, since the Human rebellion started, the MU lost its point. It all became a 'rebels vs evil empire' story with Humans as good guys fighting against evil Klingons and Cardassians. Well, how original, we really needed a parallel universe for that. :vulcan:

ENT's have grown on me, I do like seeing Archer in the green shirt and the set of a Constitution class starship. The tie in to TOS with the Defiant was excellent. But all machinations and evil hissing of the MU crew was tedious. Yeah we get, you are eeeevil..
And that is different from all the other MU episodes, how?

It's between "Mirror, Mirror" and "In A Mirror, Darkly" for me, but I voted the latter. I'll quote myself from another forum: I like that it's 100% a Mirror Universe episode, even down to the new opening credits and the awesome theme, with no characters from the prime universe and fully from the POV of the MU people, and that it's so bleak (which, of course, it had to be, due to the time period, since we knew that the Terran Empire would only get stronger from that point on). Mirror, Mirror and Crossover, when you think about it, fit the same format: our heroes cross over to the parallel universe, are shocked at finding out about their 'evil' counterparts, and before they leave they affect the people in the MU universe and inspire them to rebel, and it ends with a message of hope that things are about to get better and the oppressors will be overturned or at least challenged. In A Mirror, Darkly features people from the MU finding out about the Prime Universe, but what they find (The Defiant) only helps the Terran Empire become stronger, and it serves the most ruthless people go their way to the top. It does also inspire some people (T'Pol) to rebellion against the Empire, but the rebels (the only faction that we could feel some sympathy for) meet a sorry end - with just a prophetic line by T'Pol to suggest that the Terran Empire would fall one day - and the battle for power between Humans is all about who can be the most ruthless and scheming. Which all makes it the darkest of the MU episodes.
 
Through the Looking Glass

I just thought it was fun, especially Sisko at the end. Also, it brought back Jennifer, which is a very good thing.

I couldn't believe it when he shagged Dax :eek: I thought he would have made an excuse since she's such an old friend, but she is fit so I can't blame him. I really wanted to see how he would act when he got back to the station and saw her, would he have mentioned it? or kept it a secret.


I've always liked funny episodes and since DS9 was quite dark I think the mirror universe episodes were a nice break. As for the evil lesbians thing, meh I'm gay and it didn't offend me because it was all so tongue in cheek.
 
I was surprised by that, too! Even though its not technically the same person, wouldn't Sisko's experience in the MU make his subsequent friendship with Jadzia in the Prime Universe rather, erm, awkward?
 
Mirror Universe, as seen in TOS "Mirror, Mirror", is actually a brilliant and very interesting idea, and can lead to wonderful stories if taken seriously

I finally have a use for this smiley: :rofl:

When taken seriously it's absolutely laughable (as seen in TOS Mirror, Mirror and ENT In a Mirror, Darkly). It's just a universe where everyone's an asshole (Brunt and O'Brien notwithstanding). It's baffling that anyone takes this comic book reject of an idea as a serious dramatic storytelling opportunity.

Emporer's New Cloak is the ONLY one that isn't completely godawful due to having at least SOME attempt at a character that isn't completely one-note(namely MU Ezri) and having some honest-to-god entertainment value thanks to comedic elements.

As far as the evil gay/bisexual thing, I never took it that way personally, since MU Ezri was one of the few characters in these episodes where everything about every aspect of her wasn't EEEEEEEEEEEVIIIIIIIIIIIIIL.

If the MU as a whole had a treatment more similar to what they did with Ezri -that is, people turning out very differently due to the circumstances of their lives but not necessarily the puppy-kicking jerkasses the MU seems mostly populated by- , it'd have more validity to me. But for the most part it's just EVIL people doing EVIL things because they're so very EVIL. I think Subnormality puts it pretty well:

"The history of the world isn't the history of throngs of evil people with glowing red eyes doing evil things, it's the history of throngs of average people, out of touch with their own faults, betraying themselves and others by heading up the wrong set of stairs--usually with the help of a few truly bad people."
 
After some chat about the DS9 MU in some thread or other, I went and rewatched Crossover, which is as good as I remembered, at times really excellent.

I just a got a chance to rewatch Through the Looking Glass, though, and was surprised at how precipitously the quality drops off. The fun is basically gone in this episode, which is mostly about Sisko meeting mirror-Jennifer. It turns out they sort of like each other because she looks like dead Jennifer and our Sisko is much nicer than abusive pirate MU Sisko. Shocking, I know ;)

Crossover is a Piller/Fields script, whereas TtLG is RHW/Behr, so I guess I'll just blame the change of writers for the difference in perspective and subsequent degradation of the DS9 MU.

Mirror, Mirror is of course a classic, and I enjoy ENT's take on the MU, especially the revamp to the opening credits, etc., though I confess the actually story left me somewhat indifferent. This may be because I had recently read some Pocket Book novels involving the MU. It is quite simply a storytelling device that only works well in small doses, and quickly becomes predictable and repetitive, as its innate absurdity starts to outweigh the fun factor.
 
I think that this is exactly the mistake that DS9 writers did - believing that the Mirror Universe is a silly idea that should only be used for comedy, overacting, dressing up, girl-on-girl action and silliness. This is what lead them to turn the MU into crap, as seen most obviously in the horrible episode "Emperor's New Cloak". And don't get me started on the whole "evil bisexuals/lesbians" thing... :shifty: :rolleyes:

Mirror Universe, as seen in TOS "Mirror, Mirror", is actually a brilliant and very interesting idea, and can lead to wonderful stories if taken seriously - that in a parallel universe, under different circumstances, our heroes could have developed completely differently, that instead of peaceful explorers, the human race and its allies could have become ruthless conquerors, and that the people we know could not be the same if they grew up and lived in a barbarian dog-eat-dog world. Terran Empire is basically the dark side of the Federation, of humanity and of the heroes of the show. ENT "In A Mirror, Darkly" elaborates on that. DS9 "Crossover" threw an interesting twist - the idea that Spock's reforms of the Terran Empire lead to Humans becoming slaves, and it was suitably dark and creepy - though I always had the problem with the Intendant, since I could never buy her as an alternate, dark version of Kira, only as another character played by the same actress. If only DS9 had stopped after that episode, or after the first 2 episodes... the MU on DS9 later turned into a joke. And, really, since the Human rebellion started, the MU lost its point. It all became a 'rebels vs evil empire' story with Humans as good guys fighting against evil Klingons and Cardassians. Well, how original, we really needed a parallel universe for that. :vulcan:
Standing ovation. I love, love, love the Mirror Universe, exactly for the reasons you mention. It's really a case of nature-vs-nurture, and it's very interesting, philosophically and personally. And, it's badass. You can't really ask for more. I was so disappointed when later DS9 turned it into a farce.

As for Spock's reforms bringing the end to the Empire, I cannot shake off the feeling that it was Spock's plan all along. You cannot just change the Terran Empire, you have to change the Terrans. And the quickest, most efficient way is to make them taste a bit of their own medicine. In truly MU style.

Beside, I got the feeling that if the Empire had fallen in its own time (a few centuries, as Spock predicted), that would be the end of Humanity and its allies: I'm talking about total annihilation. A genocide on galactic scale. After a millennium of hate, I would not be surprised if their enemy would not have stopped before the last Human, Vulcan or Andorian would be toasted. In this case, by causing the fall of the Empire before its time, Spock actually saved his people: they were slaves, but they were alive, and with a chance of redemption.

I think some of the novels touched on that, but I've never actually read any of them.
 
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