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Tonight's the night. Regionals, and at long last the Season Finale of what I consider the best new show of the season. Really looking forward to this one, even though I have no Idea what it's called. Evidently there is a Journey theme, Sue is one of the Judges, they're doing "Don't Stop Believin'" again (I guess start the season with it and end the season with it) and I saw a clip for the song "Faithfully" last night and it made me look forward to it even more. I think other than regionals, I want to see something of a reason for the disconnect between what Jesse told Shelby about not hurting Rachel to Jesse being a total asshole giving in to peer pressure.
Someone explain to me when Nationals are supposed to be? They had nationals last week for the cheerleaders, but it's the end of the school year and shouldn't nationals be once a year? Are they in the summer?
As for what happened next, well, in Lima, they say, Sue Sylvester's heart grew three sizes that day.
They hit pretty much all the right notes there; the few that didn't quite work didn't quite work mostly because of the previous episodes' sometimes-inconsistent narrative arc, rather than anything inherent to the episode itself. Though the thing with Quinn's mom was really random.
When they showed Sue watching the auditorium performance, I thought they missed a trick to not mimick the camera angle from the first episode, except now she's watching Quinn and Santana, her minions from that scene, down on the stage.
All the song performances worked wonderfully.
I do like that the celebrities who come on this show are ready to portray themselves as petty douches.
I enjoyed it, even if it got a little smaltzy towards the end. My only real complaint is that things happen so quickly on glee that it's a little hard to be super invested in anything outside of the Glee club succeeding. I wish they'd slow things down just a bit and things like Idina's character adopting Quinn's baby out of the blue like that would have been set up over a longer arc.
Someone explain to me when Nationals are supposed to be? They had nationals last week for the cheerleaders, but it's the end of the school year and shouldn't nationals be once a year? Are they in the summer?
I haven't watched tonight's episode yet so I don't know what timeline-wise might occur there...but Quinn's baby is due around spring break and since she hasn't has it as of the penultimate episode it's sometime before that. So there's till plenty of time for another big competition in the school year.
I've been thinking about this one for a while. As an episode, it was fantastic. As a Season Finale, I actually felt it was a bit rushed.
What I mean is a lot of the issues I had watching this episode really had nothing to do with the episode itself. It was more along the lines of the season as a whole, especially the second half. For example, I mentioned originally how I wanted something between Jesse and Rachel. I didn't get anything in this episode, and apparently Groff is leaving to do something in London or something like that. We're not going to get an explanation as to his change of heart. Also, I agree, Quinn's Mom showing up for the second time this season was random, and while I thought it was going to happen, Shelby getting Quinn's Baby should have been more developed. Yeah so she wanted a family, and a life, but did she even interact with Quinn at all until tonight?
Now that's out of the way, this episode was one I really liked. It carried the theme of the season, underdogs coming together, very well, and Journey was very appropriate. CaptainCanada, yes the title to this episode was quite obvious. Anyway, this season was about the Journey, and
part of me was glad they didn't win. I thought they were going to place though, and when they didn't I actually was shocked. I couldn't wait till the commercial break was over just to see the aftermath of this since I did think they were going to place. So weird that the only person who voted for New Directions was Sue
I loved the performances from New Directions, as usual, but I did think the Bohemian Rhapsody interspersed with Quinn having the baby was well done.
This episode could have been very depressing, but I'm glad they didn't go all the way at the end. In fact, I really loved the entire ending, with Will doing Over the Rainbow and the scene between Will and Sue. Sue had so many great one liners in this one.
Overall, I liked this episode, but I wished some of these storylines were developed more. Maybe they could have dropped the whole Kids dressing awkward in school motief in the Gaga episode to focus more on these storylines. It was a great season, but I agree with Label. The pacing for Season 2 could be improved.
For this reason, I liked Sectionals more than I liked the Finale, even though both were very good.
How do you not "place" when there's only three teams? Does "place" have some special meaning that doesn't apply to "third place?" And why did Vocal Adrenalin's performance dwindle to what we saw compared to what they were doing earlier in the season?
I really like the show, but do they really have to keep dumbing everything down? I mean, literally dumb it down. Now everyone is a sophomore (as opposed to most of them clearly being seniors earlier in the season), Vocal Adrenalin looks like they have the same budget as New Directions (well maybe they got their outfits at Sears rather than JC Penny's), and... just... meh.
If there's only three teams, there is no third place; there's a winner and a runner-up.
Really clever little detail: we're shown Sue's whole ballot when she votes, and not only did she rank ND first, she ranked VA last, presumably either to try and torpedo their main competition, or just out of anger; and, on further examination, that's why ND lost. Consider the ballots:
Sue Sylvester
1. ND
2. AI
3. VA
Olivia Newton-John
1. AI (the suck-up team)
2. VA
3. ND
Rod Remington
1. VA
2. AI
3. ND
Josh Groban
1. VA
2. ND (based on his supportive comments)
3. AI
Okay, I loved this episode. It was a great capper to the year.
That being said, the timeline is allllll screwed up. It's the end of the school year. Mr. Shue explicitly states that summer's starting. But earlier in the season it was stated that Quinn's baby was due around spring break. That was going to be Terri's cover for getting the kid. Take it during vacation. That would put Quinn's due date in March or so. She had the baby tonight, a month early. So it should be February-ish.
(Oddly, based on what the show has shown us, in the Glee-verse, Ohio doesn't actually have a winter.)
The end of the year makes more sense though based on the fact that Quinn was only a few weeks pregnant in "Preggers" the fourth episode. Nine months of school, nine months of pregnancy.
And then there's Rachel's age. We've been told repeatedly that she's 16. Which fits with being a sophomore. But the birthdate they gave her a few episodes back--December 1994--would indicate that not only is she 15, but she was 14 in the bulk of the season.
At least Finn and Quinn (and probably Puck) were probably seniors originally--I don't think there are many sophomore Football Captains and Head Cheerleaders.
That being said, I don't actually care that much. To think about it too had is the direction of madness. And it doesn't matter. Strict timelines is not what the show is about.
So, does this mean that Quinn's baby, and Rachel are now sisters...sort of?
Yeah, I remember them saying they were sophomores... then again, they haven't really shown any school activities since like the third episode.
I thought the whole baby thing was poorly handled and was an indicator of how inconsistent the continuity in the show has been (Jesse dumping Rachel is the other glaring example).
I mean, I understand why she gives it up - probably being pushed into by the hypocrisy of her mother - but to have Idina adopt it? After she gave Rachel that speech about losing out on being a mother? It just makes Idina horribly selfish and I'm sure that's not what the producers wanted to do with that character.
Adopting the baby is perfectly in line with Shelby's feelings and actions. One of the reasons she and Rachel "split up" a few episodes back was that she didn't just want to be a mother, she wanted to be a mom. She wanted to have a hand in raising and shaping a child--and Rachel is already grown (mostly)--she can't be the little girl Shelby regrets never having had. Is it a bit selfish to pursue a relationship with a "new" child over Rachel? Sure. But Rachel Berry is no stranger to selfishness. She had to have gotten it from somewhere.