5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!

[Mad Jack Wolfe]

The fight or the design of the monster wasn't the point of that bit of the story; it didn't matter what the monster was or even really what it did in the town, that was just the sci-fi wrapping to sell the Doctor being there in the first place. It was literalising what is said about the eccentric, 'mad' genius - they can see things in the world that others cannot. And tellingly, Van Gogh could see it but the Doctor, our 'mad genius', was as oblivious as Amy - a fact he acknowledged himself in the starry night scene. The story was about seeing things beyond the mundane or bland, not about fighting another kewl monster about to devour the Earth.

This.

 

[ITL]

It's one of those sayings that I know exactly what it means, but I have no idea where I've heard it before.

Final episode of Blackadder Goes Forth. Underpants on head. Pencils up nose. Trying to get invalided out of the war. Message sent: "Captain Blackadder gone totally tonto. Bring straightjacket for immediate return to Blighty".

Wibble.

Co-written by Richard Curtis.

Exactly.

 

[AJBryant]

I loved this episode. In the scene at the museum near the end, though, I seem to have had a bout of spontaneous eye irritation.

The only thing that would have been better than seeing Amy's name on the sunflowers would have been to see one additional, NEW painting by van Gogh -- of an unidentified red-headed woman.

Sigh.

This was a spectacular episode.

Excuse me. I have to go get a tissue. I'm watching it again, and that eye problem is re-occurring.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Final episode of Blackadder Goes Forth. Underpants on head. Pencils up nose. Trying to get invalided out of the war. Message sent: "Captain Blackadder gone totally tonto. Bring straightjacket for immediate return to Blighty".

Wibble.

Co-written by Richard Curtis.

Exactly.

That makes sense... Now I want to buy Blackadder on DVD.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

Urbandictionary tells me that tonto means dumb or stupid. And yes Bob, you should.

 

[Chaos Descending]

My Spanish-English Dictionary tells me that "Tonto" means "Dumb or Stupid".

 

[AJBryant]

Also do a google search on "gone tonto." Very enlightening.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

My Spanish-English Dictionary tells me that "Tonto" means "Dumb or Stupid".

Ok, your Spanish-English Dictionary told UrbanDictionary who told me.

 

[DAK]

Speaking of translating, can someone tell me what Amy said when they're about to leave and the Doctor says "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" and she says "I was thinking I may need some ???? or something before we leave." What was it she said she needed?

 

[Cutter John]

The only thing that would have been better than seeing Amy's name on the sunflowers would have been to see one additional, NEW painting by van Gogh -- of an unidentified red-headed woman.

That surprised me too, considering how Vincent seemed to paint damn near everything.

But you just know that 'Who was Amy?' is now one of the great mysteries of the art world. Hotly debated, with many books written on the subject.

Speaking of translating, can someone tell me what Amy said when they're about to leave and the Doctor says "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?"

"I'm thinking I may need some food or something..."

And speaking of missed lines. I missed part of what Vincent said when Amy asked him about liking sunflowers.


"Always somewhere between living and dying...something...something...to the sun. A little disgusting."

 

[davejames]

Loved the Hartnell and Troughton pics, but that's three times the 1st Doctor has been referenced now...I do wonder if Moffat is going somewhere specific with this?

Yeah I was wondering that too. Between that and the constant complains about "getting old," it seems like they really want to play with the idea of the Doctor slowing down and getting close to the end of his lifespan.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

The only thing that would have been better than seeing Amy's name on the sunflowers would have been to see one additional, NEW painting by van Gogh -- of an unidentified red-headed woman.

That surprised me too, considering how Vincent seemed to paint damn near everything.

But you just know that 'Who was Amy?' is now one of the great mysteries of the art world. Hotly debated, with many books written on the subject.

Speaking of translating, can someone tell me what Amy said when they're about to leave and the Doctor says "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?"

"I'm thinking I may need some food or something..."

And speaking of missed lines. I missed part of what Vincent said when Amy asked him about liking sunflowers.


"Always somewhere between living and dying...something...something...to the sun. A little disgusting."

I can't get iPlayer to work at the moment but I think it's something along the lines of "dying, rotting and decaying as it tries to reach the sun"

 

[Mr. Adventure]

The only thing that would have been better than seeing Amy's name on the sunflowers would have been to see one additional, NEW painting by van Gogh -- of an unidentified red-headed woman.

That surprised me too, considering how Vincent seemed to paint damn near everything.

But you just know that 'Who was Amy?' is now one of the great mysteries of the art world. Hotly debated, with many books written on the subject.

Speaking of translating, can someone tell me what Amy said when they're about to leave and the Doctor says "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?"

"I'm thinking I may need some food or something..."

And speaking of missed lines. I missed part of what Vincent said when Amy asked him about liking sunflowers.


"Always somewhere between living and dying...something...something...to the sun. A little disgusting."

I can't get iPlayer to work at the moment but I think it's something along the lines of "dying, rotting and decaying as it tries to reach the sun"

"Half-human as they turn to the sun."

 

[DAK]

Speaking of translating, can someone tell me what Amy said when they're about to leave and the Doctor says "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?"

"I'm thinking I may need some food or something..."

Thanks, makes sense.

 

[Chaos Descending]

My Spanish-English Dictionary tells me that "Tonto" means "Dumb or Stupid".

Ok, your Spanish-English Dictionary told UrbanDictionary who told me.

Yeah but my Spanish-English Dictionary heard it from Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar.

 

[Jax]

Why does new Who have its pieces of technology looking so silly? Like it's ashamed to be too serious in its sci-finess.

You've seen the original series right and how silly did that look , personally the charm of Who is that it plays out not as a serious SCI FI but a silly one.

 

[Demonland]

I also wanted to add that I love the bit where the Doctor was waiting for the alien to show up while Van Gogh was painting the church and he was extremely bored and fidgety and said, "so this is how time passes" or something. The Doctor is always on the move and there is never any downtime in his life.

 

[Skellington]

Loved the Hartnell and Troughton pics, but that's three times the 1st Doctor has been referenced now...I do wonder if Moffat is going somewhere specific with this?

Yeah I was wondering that too. Between that and the constant complains about "getting old," it seems like they really want to play with the idea of the Doctor slowing down and getting close to the end of his lifespan.

Well, he did mention rececently to Nasreen that he only saved the world . had adventures every other day.

 

[Australis]

Wow, people! Watch the first 30 seconds again! Something's rushing at Vincent in the wheat, and it ain't crows!

I think there's going to be a big reveal in Ep 13.

I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be hinting at this week's monster, nothing else.

Ah, now, see...

I think it was after he'd met the Doctor.

Because the second time around Dr Black said it was the last painting he did, whereas the first time around he said it was one of the last.

I think this is going to pan out differently than we think, like the Doctor/jacket thing in the Angels ep.

Well, I hope it does.

And as Terry Pratchett says, a man who uses a lot of italics needs to be watched. Preferably from a safe distance...

 

[auntiehill]

^^ It is a character piece though more than a plot-driven one, I could see that not appealing (or working) for everyone as it relies on one getting invested in the characters.

Exactly. This episode's appeal is more based on whether a given individual can enjoy a story that's character-oriented rather than plot-oriented, not on gender or original series fanhood.

You may be right. Hubby is definitely more plot oriented while I have to like or feel some connection to the characters.

He'll watch something just for action, special effects, overall themes, etc. I don't really give a rat's patootie about that if I don't like any of the characters, the dialogue, their development and so on.