Did I say "slightly" wise guy? He looked jade green. Like a light-skinned Orion. When has that ever happened pre-remastered? Would I have even mentioned it if he looked that same as I've seen him over the last 40 years?!
It's official: Thank God for Remastered!
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Did I say "slightly" wise guy? He looked jade green. Like a light-skinned Orion. When has that ever happened pre-remastered? Would I have even mentioned it if he looked that same as I've seen him over the last 40 years?!
Did the peeps restoring it imbue it with a greenish tinge not on it originally? Also, lots of dark lines on it I never saw before... and weathering. When I saw it at the Smithsonian in 1976, it appeared GRAY! Was it just a bad perception through a child's eyes? I have a photo I took of it then, but it was by an understandably unsteady hand...
Yes, Ed Meirecki is the name of the perpetrator. He went way beyond overboard with his airbrush, painting the ship in some personal idea of exagerated weathering that he thought was proper for the bright lights of motion picture model filming. Unfortunately the model is not under bright klieg lights in its dimly lit glass case in the museum. It's drawn a lot of criticism over the years, and many of us wish for a more correct refurb.
The green, browns and other colors used in the restoration were as accurate as possible, and were based partly on the previously unrestored top surface of the saucer and painted areas of the model which had not been exposed and thus weathered. Ed Miarecki (not "Meireck") exaggerated the "weathering" paint effects, though.
The Smithsonian refurbished the model in the 1970s using plain old neutral primer gray paint, with no attempt made to match the model's original appearence. It was just a TV prop, and despite its popularity they were never sure what to do with it over the years.
Among the folks assigned to put together the 1992 NASM exhibit, some were fans and some of the folks in charge considered it rather a shit job - they're working in a museum that features stuff like Apollo capsules that went to the Moon, and they're assigned to put together a presentation about a TV show! After the exhibit opened and was enormously popular, of course, a few people climbed over one another to claim credit.
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Did I say "slightly" wise guy? He looked jade green. Like a light-skinned Orion. When has that ever happened pre-remastered? Would I have even mentioned it if he looked that same as I've seen him over the last 40 years?!
Still, you complain about a Vulcan looking green...
Can anyone confirm what he saw, or did he just calibrate he TV a little shitty?
Yes, I must be lying. 
Just reporting what I saw. It was in the daylight, outdoor scenes early in City, so I assume the natural sunlight was spiking the theatrical makeup's color, which was in turn spiked by the remastering. Whereas he usually looks just a tad Asian in tone, here you can really see a faint green shade to his face.
I also though McCoy's skin blotches looked more obviously like makeup polka-dots than any skin condition.
I observe it, when he's NEVER looked that green in all the years I've watched the show. What exactly is your problem with this observation?
Just reporting what I saw. It was in the daylight, outdoor scenes early in City, so I assume the natural sunlight was spiking the theatrical makeup's color, which was in turn spiked by the remastering. Whereas he usually looks just a tad Asian in tone, here you can really see a faint green shade to his face.
I also though McCoy's skin blotches looked more obviously like makeup polka-dots than any skin condition.
I concur, there are definite moments of an I'm-gonna-puke look to his colour in the remastered eps, not there at all on other DVD presentations.
I vote for Warped9 as the POC for the restoration fund.
Opthalmologist: Well, how did your laser eye surgery go? How much would you say your vision has improved?
Patient: Yes, but...
Opthalmologist: What's wrong?
Patient: TV doesn't look the same. Colors are more vibrant, details are sharper...
Opthalmologist: And that's a bad thing?
Patient: Well, it never looked that good before. It just doesn't seem right. Can you reverse it? Put my eyesight back to the way it was?
Opthalmologist: Just one second, please. (Out the door) Nurse, call Doctor Stewart, have him bring a straightjacket. I've got a live one for him...
Patient: Yes, but...
Opthalmologist: What's wrong?
Patient: TV doesn't look the same. Colors are more vibrant, details are sharper...
Opthalmologist: And that's a bad thing?
Patient: Well, it never looked that good before. It just doesn't seem right. Can you reverse it? Put my eyesight back to the way it was?
Opthalmologist: Just one second, please. (Out the door) Nurse, call Doctor Stewart, have him bring a straightjacket. I've got a live one for him...
I'll be adding more fuel to the fire. 
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I mean HOLY COW, TOS effects look bad in HD!!! That matte line is like a centimeter thick, the lighting is horrible and it's totally blurred out. This doesn't look like an 11 foot model or a 300 meter long ship, it looks like a 30 centimeter model kit.
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I mean HOLY COW, TOS effects look bad in HD!!! That matte line is like a centimeter thick, the lighting is horrible and it's totally blurred out. This doesn't look like an 11 foot model or a 300 meter long ship, it looks like a 30 centimeter model kit.
Opthalmologist: Well, how did your laser eye surgery go? How much would you say your vision has improved?
Patient: Yes, but...
Opthalmologist: What's wrong?
Patient: TV doesn't look the same. Colors are more vibrant, details are sharper...
Opthalmologist: And that's a bad thing?
Patient: Well, it never looked that good before. It just doesn't seem right. Can you reverse it? Put my eyesight back to the way it was?
NEXT DAY
Opthamologist: Okay, look at this image...
Patient: Oh yes, that's better!
Patient: Yes, but...
Opthalmologist: What's wrong?
Patient: TV doesn't look the same. Colors are more vibrant, details are sharper...
Opthalmologist: And that's a bad thing?
Patient: Well, it never looked that good before. It just doesn't seem right. Can you reverse it? Put my eyesight back to the way it was?
NEXT DAY
Opthamologist: Okay, look at this image...
Patient: Oh yes, that's better!
I wasn't talking about the new FX, I was talking about the HD transfers. I still watch Trek with the original FX.
But you inadvertently made the point for the new FX, indeed, that's what I assumed you were referring to.
I'll be adding more fuel to the fire.
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http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x22hd/thesavagecurtainhd0004.jpg
I mean HOLY COW, TOS effects look bad in HD!!! That matte line is like a centimeter thick, the lighting is horrible and it's totally blurred out. This doesn't look like an 11 foot model or a 300 meter long ship, it looks like a 30 centimeter model kit.
Conversely, though, the new effect (which is rather lovely, no question) does not look anything at all like what could have been accomplished in 1969.
With the correct amount of time & money, I believe it could have. Regardless, I don't really care; in HD, you need higher resolution FX to keep up with the higher resolution already possible from the live action on the 35mm film stock which has gone through NO multiple optical processes (save for the fade-outs & fade-ins, and that's only two steps itself).I'll be adding more fuel to the fire.
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x22hd/thesavagecurtainhd0004b.jpg
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http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x22hd/thesavagecurtainhd0004.jpg
I mean HOLY COW, TOS effects look bad in HD!!! That matte line is like a centimeter thick, the lighting is horrible and it's totally blurred out. This doesn't look like an 11 foot model or a 300 meter long ship, it looks like a 30 centimeter model kit.
Conversely, though, the new effect (which is rather lovely, no question) does not look anything at all like what could have been accomplished in 1969.
Fans of the original FX can still watch the eps on standard DVD or VHS & on an old fashioned CRT to retain the original "feel" of the shows as broadcast in the prior century.
No, the point I made was how silly it is to complain about things that were always already there, not new things that have only recently been added.But you inadvertently made the point for the new FX, indeed, that's what I assumed you were referring to.
I don't have a problem with the new FX, but I prefer the originals.
Uh... fans the of original FX can still watch the episodes with original FX on blu-ray the way I do in crystal clear HD.Fans of the original FX can still watch the eps on standard DVD or VHS & on an old fashioned CRT to retain the original "feel" of the shows as broadcast in the prior century.
And there's the real basis of my argument.
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