There were very moving scenes in the finale, but overall I found it a disappointment. The revelation that LA X was a fantasy world means that none of the actions the characters took in it meant anything, and gave the ending a feel like "and then I fell out of bed and woke up."
Lost Series Finale: "The End"
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I loved the finale.
I sure as hell wasn't expecting answers to random ass plot points people are bringing up that frankly, I'd forgotten! I didn't come for those answers, I came to see how it ended.
Lots of great stuff here. I was happy to see Lapidus alive, and he got some good lines in yelling at people
. And that Miles dude believing in duct tape 
Don't know what to say that hasn't already been said... the spelled out what was going on in the flash sideways world, and others have covered it... it seemed pretty obvious. What happened on the island was really happening, and the flash sideways was some kind of afterlife where they all got together outside of linear time. Presumably Frank Lapidus piloted the survivors safely home where they lived out the rest of their days, any other interpretation would ignore the fact that Frank is the most kick-ass pilot in history.
Also, surely Desmond makes it back to Penny.
Dying Jack and the dog was a great ending scene too, btw.
Lost was a really good show, and I have a real hard time finding something to complain about considering what else is left out there. The finale was pretty emotional... I get the feeling that I'll be laughing at 24's finale tomorrow, which is kind of a sad end for a show that started out so great... but I digress.
See you in another thread, brotha!
Oh, and if you didn't like the finale... Jack would like to have a word with you:
I sure as hell wasn't expecting answers to random ass plot points people are bringing up that frankly, I'd forgotten! I didn't come for those answers, I came to see how it ended.
Lots of great stuff here. I was happy to see Lapidus alive, and he got some good lines in yelling at people
. And that Miles dude believing in duct tape Don't know what to say that hasn't already been said... the spelled out what was going on in the flash sideways world, and others have covered it... it seemed pretty obvious. What happened on the island was really happening, and the flash sideways was some kind of afterlife where they all got together outside of linear time. Presumably Frank Lapidus piloted the survivors safely home where they lived out the rest of their days, any other interpretation would ignore the fact that Frank is the most kick-ass pilot in history.
Also, surely Desmond makes it back to Penny.
Dying Jack and the dog was a great ending scene too, btw.
Lost was a really good show, and I have a real hard time finding something to complain about considering what else is left out there. The finale was pretty emotional... I get the feeling that I'll be laughing at 24's finale tomorrow, which is kind of a sad end for a show that started out so great... but I digress.
See you in another thread, brotha!
Oh, and if you didn't like the finale... Jack would like to have a word with you:
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So... same as the hatch then.
It was great when Smokey pointed out how familiar it was that Desmond was going down a hole to save the world or maybe not. The whole deal with the light was exactly the same as the deal with the hatch. And the same thing happened as when Locke kept them from pushing the button... bad things which may or may not be fatal to the world until someone went in and fixed it.
Basically the hatch was like a mini-island
Excellent. There are no words. I loved it.
I watched it with Ashu and after Jack's eye closed we sat in silence for about a minute. And then I turned to her and said "That was fucking beautiful. But I bet a lot of people are royally pissed off right now."
I'm not going to get into a huge pissing match with the people who thought it didn't answer enough questions or thought it was a cop-out. I don't want to sully the experience.
The only thing I'll say is that when it was over I wasn't wondering about Walt's powers or the Light or the Hurley bird. I was wondering about what the rest of Hurley's life was like. What Ben's life was like. What happened to Kate after the plane landed back in civilization? It seems like she lived a long life after that.
But I'm not pissed that we didn't get those answers. I'm grateful that I'll always be left wondering about these characters. A lot of them had a whole other life that we never saw. So they'll kind of always be alive.
I'll always love Lost. It's probably my favourite show of all time.
But for now?
I'll let go.
I watched it with Ashu and after Jack's eye closed we sat in silence for about a minute. And then I turned to her and said "That was fucking beautiful. But I bet a lot of people are royally pissed off right now."
I'm not going to get into a huge pissing match with the people who thought it didn't answer enough questions or thought it was a cop-out. I don't want to sully the experience.
The only thing I'll say is that when it was over I wasn't wondering about Walt's powers or the Light or the Hurley bird. I was wondering about what the rest of Hurley's life was like. What Ben's life was like. What happened to Kate after the plane landed back in civilization? It seems like she lived a long life after that.
But I'm not pissed that we didn't get those answers. I'm grateful that I'll always be left wondering about these characters. A lot of them had a whole other life that we never saw. So they'll kind of always be alive.
I'll always love Lost. It's probably my favourite show of all time.
But for now?
I'll let go.
Great ending.
Good enough to make me not upset that we didn't get a lot of the answers I would have liked, and that is saying a lot.
Jack lying there dying and Vincent coming over and lying down next to him was just amazing.
Only thing I wish was different is that I wish Sawyer had been the one to shoot Locke and therefor save both Jack and the Island. It would have been fitting, after all the times (and years) that he and Jack had fought each other, that he saved him in the end.
Kate killing Locke just didn't "feel" right. It should have been someone with a more involved relationship with Locke.
Maybe Ben should have done it? He killed him the first time, why not the second?
But all in all a very moving and good ending.
PS. A while back some studio insider mentioned that Lost was a billion dollar franchise for ABC/Disney so of course Lost wouldn't fully be over at the end of the series. There will be more, somewhere down the road, whether in books, a spin-off, a movie, or something. But there will be more. Now, if it will be good or not depends on who they get involved to produce it and develop it. But no studio (especially Disney) is going to let a cash cow like Lost fade away. It might be a few years, but they will milk this cow dry. Let's just hope it is good tasting milk.
Good enough to make me not upset that we didn't get a lot of the answers I would have liked, and that is saying a lot.
Jack lying there dying and Vincent coming over and lying down next to him was just amazing.
Only thing I wish was different is that I wish Sawyer had been the one to shoot Locke and therefor save both Jack and the Island. It would have been fitting, after all the times (and years) that he and Jack had fought each other, that he saved him in the end.
Kate killing Locke just didn't "feel" right. It should have been someone with a more involved relationship with Locke.
Maybe Ben should have done it? He killed him the first time, why not the second?
But all in all a very moving and good ending.
PS. A while back some studio insider mentioned that Lost was a billion dollar franchise for ABC/Disney so of course Lost wouldn't fully be over at the end of the series. There will be more, somewhere down the road, whether in books, a spin-off, a movie, or something. But there will be more. Now, if it will be good or not depends on who they get involved to produce it and develop it. But no studio (especially Disney) is going to let a cash cow like Lost fade away. It might be a few years, but they will milk this cow dry. Let's just hope it is good tasting milk.
Amen!
I'm a bit ambiguous about the finale. I think the character stuff was pretty nice. Some great emotional moments in there and the final scene was excellent. The writers' main interest was clearly to find a good ending for the characters and I think that worked out rather well for the most part.
But ... Lost just isn't only about the characters. I'd say that most people who stuck with this show until now are at least equally interested in the mythology and the sci-fi stuff as they are in the characters. And that part did NOT get a decent conclusion. A lot of questions were left hanging and others were sort of answered by a vague "The island is MAGICAL!"-type explanation, which I find pretty unsatisfying.
It's like the writers grew tired of all the mythology and just wanted to get back to the character-driven storytelling of season 1. But that's not what the show is anymore. Seasons 3-5 were clearly mythology-driven and to just drop that in the end is bound to give the series as a whole a rather uneven feel.
All in all, I thought the finale was mostly good but in hindsight, the whole mystery aspect of the show was not very satisfying.
But ... Lost just isn't only about the characters. I'd say that most people who stuck with this show until now are at least equally interested in the mythology and the sci-fi stuff as they are in the characters. And that part did NOT get a decent conclusion. A lot of questions were left hanging and others were sort of answered by a vague "The island is MAGICAL!"-type explanation, which I find pretty unsatisfying.
It's like the writers grew tired of all the mythology and just wanted to get back to the character-driven storytelling of season 1. But that's not what the show is anymore. Seasons 3-5 were clearly mythology-driven and to just drop that in the end is bound to give the series as a whole a rather uneven feel.
All in all, I thought the finale was mostly good but in hindsight, the whole mystery aspect of the show was not very satisfying.
They explained all this during the season they flashed back to Dharma. They explained the button keeps the magnet in check after Dharma drilled into it. They also explained the magnet is tied into the "heart" of the island. Jacob & Smokey's psudo-mom expained that the energy & water on the island combined created all life. That's what the glowing stone & water did. That's why the water stopped when the stone was removed.
RobertScorpio
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The LOST finale was really good. I think it came full circle...
And for all the nit-pickers out there, especially on a Star Trek site? LOST was as good as any of the better Star Trek shows. Had the writers of a certain "two" Star Trek series had half the talent as those who created Lost (and who ironically control TREK now), then perhaps TREK wouldn't have been in the crap dungeon it has been in for the past decade or so...
LOST is over, and now we move on to 24's ending tonight. And what a sad year for TV, in that we are losing two shows that re-defined TV.
Rob
And for all the nit-pickers out there, especially on a Star Trek site? LOST was as good as any of the better Star Trek shows. Had the writers of a certain "two" Star Trek series had half the talent as those who created Lost (and who ironically control TREK now), then perhaps TREK wouldn't have been in the crap dungeon it has been in for the past decade or so...
LOST is over, and now we move on to 24's ending tonight. And what a sad year for TV, in that we are losing two shows that re-defined TV.
Rob
Agreed.
I don't think that there was an Ajira return flight though. I think that Jack died in the crash as well as everyone else only the Island gave them the opportunity to find one another.
These people were "lost" and alone but now they are together and happy.
Hurley and Ben's exchange ouside the church seemed to me to be a bit tongue in cheek rather than actual compliments on a job well done.
When Farraday saw the report of the 815 being found on the bottom of the ocean he wept yet didn't know why; maybe because "in another life, brotha" it's hard to lose people you care about...
Aaron and Ji Yon were never born and Walt and Michael never made it off the island. Aaron died in utero in the crash and Ji Yon never really was conceived.
Imortal Richard's mortal tell-tale gray hair was foreshadowing The End too because he was no longer afraid of letting go.
And what would Lost be if not for the questions...
Why were Juliet and Penny and Desmond in the church when they were not in the crash?
Why?... Oh, I don't really care.
9.5 out of 10
RobertScorpio
Pariah
First off, the ending made me cry like a baby. The goddamn dog lies down next to him as he dies?! Jesus Christ I was bawling.
Second, I still feel that the sideways stories were a complete waste of precious screen-time in the final season. It feels like a cruel joke about the common theory back in the beginning that they were all dead. Still, the bit in the church with Christian was pretty poignant. It was just a waste of half a season.
Third, everything else I found pretty underwhelming. We didn't learn a single new thing. There wasn't a single plot twist in the real Island story. The Locke confrontation was brief and completely anti-climactic. I spent the whole season waiting to see them actually do something against the Monster... and the black smoke form doesn't even APPEAR in the finale?! I had visions of super-powered Jack laying a smackdown on the Monster. An angry black form swarms towards him but flows around him harmlessly because he's immune to it. It tries to grab him with an appendage, but then Jack rips it off and then beats him down with it! Then he uses his super breath to suck in the entire smoke cloud, freeze it, shoot it back out, and shatter it into a million pieces while Locke screams nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooo!!! Well, SOMETHING like that, anyway!
So on the whole, LOST is probably my second favorite show of all time, but the final season definitely wasn't as good as S3-5. Like so many shows before it, the ending was a disappointment. Actually it reminds me strongly of the horribly disappointing DS9 finale. The great and mighty destiny of the Sisko... was to chuck a book into the fire. The great and mighty destiny of the Jack... was to stick a stone pillar in a whole. Inspiring stuff.
Once the light was snuffed out in the tunnel, the Black Smoke monster was 'trapped' in human form which is why he didn't turn into the monster in the first place in his final fight with jack..he was stuck.
Rob
I've seen this notion that they died in the crash on a few other sites and I sincerely don't understand where people are getting this notion from.
It's stated clearly and in no uncertain terms that everything on the island happened for real and that many of the people that Jack meets up with in the afterlife lived long past when Jack died.
The only part of the entire 6 seasons that occurred when they were dead was the Season 6 "flash sideways" which ended up being some sort of afterlife-staging area that helped prepare souls to move on from this existence to the next.
The "staging" area was a place where you find those people who meant so much to you in life that you end up spending your eternity with because they have become your family.
Yeah I saw it that way, but you have to be careful around here. If you don't say LOST is the greatest thing since sliced bread, some people around here take it very personal.
But yeah in the end, it felt like a waste of 6 years. Oh well.
Exactly.
Christian said everyone dies "eventually" and that everything Jack experanced was real. Hurely proves this by saying to Ben: "You were a good number two." Which means their lives on the island continued after Jack died but in time Hurely died too.(time has no meaning in the flash sideways. That was clear when Sawyer & Miles arrested Sayid minutes after he shot up those guys in the kitchen.) Ben didn't go into the church because he wasn't dead yet, much like what they said about Ana Lucia & Fairaday. Desmond said it wasn't their time yet.
Ana-Lucia died on the island. She just had to 'work things out' like Ben did. (and yes, Ben was dead too).
Faraday died on the island (Mom shot him!) Mom didn't want Desmond to "take him" with the others in the church. She wanted to keep him with her in the afterlife.
I honestly don't get the 'they were dead the whole series' bit. It was stated explicitly, by Christian, that everything that had happened, happened.
I will say that on the second viewing (I have timeshifting and watched the west coast feed) it was even a more emotional punch! 6 years with a love/hate relationship with Jack, I bawled as he died with Vincent beside him
Faraday died on the island (Mom shot him!) Mom didn't want Desmond to "take him" with the others in the church. She wanted to keep him with her in the afterlife.
I honestly don't get the 'they were dead the whole series' bit. It was stated explicitly, by Christian, that everything that had happened, happened.
I will say that on the second viewing (I have timeshifting and watched the west coast feed) it was even a more emotional punch! 6 years with a love/hate relationship with Jack, I bawled as he died with Vincent beside him
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Above average. Not quite making it to excellent. I felt the story was a bit lacking. The message, characters, acting, etc were all top notch. The island story in particular felt incomplete. I think the whole afterlife part of the story was inserted to try and disguise that. Now, it was a good message. It's the people that we meet along the way that make it all worthwhile. They're what's important.
But, as a story, the island resolution didn't satisfy me. While I didn't expect all of the answers, we really didn't get much at all. We still only know that the light was something that some people thought was worth protecting. I guess as a storytelling device, that was it's purpose. Give something for our characters to protect. However, the lack of detail was disconcerting.
Did they ever show Frank in the afterlife? I don't recall seeing him there. Maybe he was immortal?!
Miles seemed criminally under used in the series. He had this neat ability to hear the dead, which I thought would lead somewhere. But not really.
I knew Hurley was going to be the longer term replacement and that Jack was just the temporary fill-in.
I'll miss these characters and the island!
Mr Awe
But, as a story, the island resolution didn't satisfy me. While I didn't expect all of the answers, we really didn't get much at all. We still only know that the light was something that some people thought was worth protecting. I guess as a storytelling device, that was it's purpose. Give something for our characters to protect. However, the lack of detail was disconcerting.
Did they ever show Frank in the afterlife? I don't recall seeing him there. Maybe he was immortal?!
Miles seemed criminally under used in the series. He had this neat ability to hear the dead, which I thought would lead somewhere. But not really.
I knew Hurley was going to be the longer term replacement and that Jack was just the temporary fill-in.
I'll miss these characters and the island!
Mr Awe
Of course it was real! We all watched it for six years
I find that odd, why would he not be dead yet? Boone and Shannon were...
Then there is the scene in the closing credits of a plane crash and all we see is wreckage and all we hear is the beach.
I'm not claiming I'm right; I'm just saying how much I loved the show. I've certainly been wrong before but not about that.
It was "real" in the sense that it was clear that the events on the island (and off-island) occurred while they were still alive. Hurley took over as the new Jacob (and he was alive) and Ben was his number two (and he was alive) and the people (Sawyer, Lapidus, Kate, Miles, Richard) on the plane made it off the island (and they were alive). They didn't die in the original crash (flight 815), they didn't "imagine" the events on the island or off island and only the flash-sideways from this season dealt with the characters after they all died.
Ben was dead, as was everyone in the sideways reality. He didn't join them in the church where they were ready to move on together into the next existence because he wasn't ready yet, nor was he really part of the core group that had become each other's family.
So? That's where it all started....they had come full circle. Jack had closed his eyes, died and then we are left to either reflect on how it all began, or to conclude that another plane crashed and the cycle was beginning again. (Which is kind of how the Dark Tower series ends)
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