Will we see Rose... but more importantly...
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Given that "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End" was essentially all about RTD playing with all of his toys one last time before doing the specials as his tenure's epilogue, I've often thought that it would have worked better if the Metacrisis Doctor had been a clone of the Ninth Doctor instead of the Tenth. I doubt Eccleston would have been willing to come back for the one episode, but I think it would have been far more effective and bittersweet to give one Doctor we care about the happy ending with Rose, but not the other (as opposed to just a clone of the same Doctor).
Oh, definitely. Did you see how jealous she was of the Ninth Doctor's interactions with Lynda-With-A-Y? She was already infatuated. When the Doctor regenerated into Ten, it was just icing on the cake that now he was young and foxy, too.
I think so. Certainly Sarah Jane still seemed to have feelings for the Doctor when he was in his tenth incarnation, even though she hadn't seen him since his fourth.
Love the idea of River Song as a full time companion! As long as we can have Miss Pond still in it as well 
Also, yes, more Jenny, please!
If Ten's hand had grown into Nine, that would have been the ultimate shark jump as far as I'm concerned. The mind boggles - even with the rest of TSE/JE in mind - at how unbelievably stupid that would have been.
The only way to do it would have been for the hand to be noticibly different when Jack had it in his office. Cue Ten making an off hand (sorry) comment in Utopia along the lines of... "Oh look it degenerated into my last incarnation becuase the regneration was still within the first 15 hours."
As I write that though it still seems very stupid. If only Nine's arm had been chopped off before he inhaled all that time energy!
As I write that though it still seems very stupid. If only Nine's arm had been chopped off before he inhaled all that time energy!
^ Or Nigel Tuffnell's 'Goes to Eleven' (or Goes to Nine?!) amplifier ... 'It's one stupider, innit?'
Oh to go back to the highbrow days of Earth core removals and space minotaurs!
That's your defence? That's desperate stuff.
Defense? Against what? Did you attack me?
Nah, surfing on the wave of your never-ending negativity is not a defense, it's entertainment, mostly. You know, humor.
I like those episodes but appreciate that any thought as to what's happening will cause the whole thing to crumble. I can assure that if this nonsense had happened, I would hate the whole thing. I'll be raging. It's that fine a line with Journey's End.
I'll defend that regeneration cliffhanger to the death, mind you. That was brilliant. For all I knew, Tennant had left there and then.
Your defense against the stated aspects of Journey's End being stupid is that the old show had daft things in too. Firstly, that's no justification, and secondly I'm not sure the old series ever featured anything of that degree of utter stupidity.
Try ITV2.
Something stupid as 10's hand...a hand from the same genetic material...regrowing into a previous blueprint of the same man? I could name half-a-dozen similarly "stupid" moments in the Classic series. I love them all, and I would have loved if it had been Eccleston that sat up in that metacrisis. For fuckssake, Romana actually tried on multiple bodies. Do you really think it's that far a jump to have the Doctor turn back into himself?
For once, Sci is absolutely correct. In the scheme of it being RTD's last hurrah, and going with the conceit of the plot of getting everyone together, 10.5 not only makes more sense as 9.5....not only means more to the narrative in dealing with the final closure for Rose and "her Doctor"...but Russel T. Davies himself practically screams it outloud in the episode itself.
Watch 10.5....he grins manically like Number Nine. Especially in the console room when everyone is flying the Earth home. The pattern of his dress (one coat over single jumper) is the same. He has the same violent streak. And Ten says, verbatim, "That's me...when we first met."
10.5 was supposed to Eccleston.
I'm with this guy.
Thankee, sir!
but Russel T. Davies himself practically screams it outloud in the episode itself.
Watch 10.5....he grins manically like Number Nine. Especially in the console room when everyone is flying the Earth home. The pattern of his dress (one coat over single jumper) is the same. He has the same violent streak. And Ten says, verbatim, "That's me...when we first met."
10.5 was supposed to Eccleston.
Exactly!
I neither know nor care. Getting every one of RTD's major characters -- Nine, Rose, Mickey, Jackie, Captain Jack, Ten, Donna, Martha, Sarah Jane, Wilf, Francine, Sylvia, Harriet Jones, Gwen, Ianto, Luke, Mister Smith, and K-9 -- together for one last hurrah is far more important than the plot contrivances used to reunite them, and it's just a shame that Tennant basically had to play a Ninified Ten instead of them being able to get Eccleston back.
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