We should have never seen Rose after Doomsday.
This.

The bad guys are all the same; it's only the wit of the writing and the character stuff that makes the show worthwhile to me.

We should have never seen Rose after Doomsday.
The bad guys are all the same; it's only the wit of the writing and the character stuff that makes the show worthwhile to me.
I think it would be more interesting to have Rose pair up again with 9.
Would Rose have the same feelings for 9 as she had for 10 ?
And, if we go that route would Rose have feeling for 11 if they every met.
yea i agree rose is done, hopefully she wil stay in her own universe, lol.
i think the two characters i would want more that have been used is River Song (i can hionestly see her used as a companion for a series then lead it to 'the libary'. also Jenny the doctrs daughter who rode off in that rocket but thats just my opinion
That was before Doomsday ; )We should have never seen Rose after Doomsday.
Nah I'd still have the End of Time cameo, but the S4 stuff should never have happened
It feels odd saying it (considering the complete nonsense bollocks of his hand turning into a whole person so Rose could have her living Doctor sex doll), but how could you have that hand turn into an Eccleston?Given that "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End" was essentially all about RTD playing with all of his toys one last time before doing the specials as his tenure's epilogue, I've often thought that it would have worked better if the Metacrisis Doctor had been a clone of the Ninth Doctor instead of the Tenth. I doubt Eccleston would have been willing to come back for the one episode, but I think it would have been far more effective and bittersweet to give one Doctor we care about the happy ending with Rose, but not the other (as opposed to just a clone of the same Doctor).
Oh to go back to the highbrow days of Earth core removals and space minotaurs!It's only a very tiny bit stupider than what we actually got. It's like infinity+1 in terms of stupidity.
That's your defence? That's desperate stuff.Oh to go back to the highbrow days of Earth core removals and space minotaurs!It's only a very tiny bit stupider than what we actually got. It's like infinity+1 in terms of stupidity.
Defense? Against what? Did you attack me?That's your defence? That's desperate stuff.Oh to go back to the highbrow days of Earth core removals and space minotaurs!It's only a very tiny bit stupider than what we actually got. It's like infinity+1 in terms of stupidity.
It's only a very tiny bit stupider than what we actually got. It's like infinity+1 in terms of stupidity.
Your defense against the stated aspects of Journey's End being stupid is that the old show had daft things in too. Firstly, that's no justification, and secondly I'm not sure the old series ever featured anything of that degree of utter stupidity.Defense? Against what? Did you attack me?That's your defence? That's desperate stuff.Oh to go back to the highbrow days of Earth core removals and space minotaurs!
Nah, surfing on the wave of your never-ending negativity is not a defense, it's entertainment, mostly. You know, humor.
Try ITV2.I'd only want Rose to come back if she was fully nude the entire episode.
secondly I'm not sure the old series ever featured anything of that degree of utter stupidity.
I'd only want Rose to come back if she was fully nude the entire episode.
For once, Sci is absolutely correct. In the scheme of it being RTD's last hurrah, and going with the conceit of the plot of getting everyone together, 10.5 not only makes more sense as 9.5....not only means more to the narrative in dealing with the final closure for Rose and "her Doctor"...
but Russel T. Davies himself practically screams it outloud in the episode itself.
Watch 10.5....he grins manically like Number Nine. Especially in the console room when everyone is flying the Earth home. The pattern of his dress (one coat over single jumper) is the same. He has the same violent streak. And Ten says, verbatim, "That's me...when we first met."
10.5 was supposed to Eccleston.![]()
It feels odd saying it (considering the complete nonsense bollocks of his hand turning into a whole person so Rose could have her living Doctor sex doll), but how could you have that hand turn into an Eccleston?Given that "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End" was essentially all about RTD playing with all of his toys one last time before doing the specials as his tenure's epilogue, I've often thought that it would have worked better if the Metacrisis Doctor had been a clone of the Ninth Doctor instead of the Tenth. I doubt Eccleston would have been willing to come back for the one episode, but I think it would have been far more effective and bittersweet to give one Doctor we care about the happy ending with Rose, but not the other (as opposed to just a clone of the same Doctor).
Getting every one of RTD's major characters -- Nine, Rose, Mickey, Jackie, Captain Jack, Ten, Donna, Martha, Sarah Jane, Wilf, Francine, Sylvia, Harriet Jones, Gwen, Ianto, Luke, Mister Smith, and K-9 -- together for one last hurrah is far more important than the plot contrivances used to reunite them,
The only flaw in that respect. I wonder if they even tried? The only reason I can confidently not see him doing it (since I don't know why he left the role) would be his filming schedule on things like that horrid G.I. Joe movie (hope he got paid well for that one)...and it's just a shame that Tennant basically had to play a Ninified Ten instead of them being able to get Eccleston back.
secondly I'm not sure the old series ever featured anything of that degree of utter stupidity.
Something stupid as 10's hand...a hand from the same genetic material...regrowing into a previous blueprint of the same man? I could name half-a-dozen similarly "stupid" moments in the Classic series. I love them all, and I would have loved if it had been Eccleston that sat up in that metacrisis.
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