V Fans vs. Tyler Evans
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Yeah definitely not a good character, how about a V kills him and takes his identity, but the beauty will be that it will be different actor, and nothing is said to the audience or even within the show. Just recasted.
Or Anna seduces him and eats him
Or Anna seduces him and eats him
Let him- then discover they kill and eat the males afterwards.
bazinga.
Usually when characters suck, it's mainly the writers' fault. Sometimes it might be the actors' fault but the writers are generally going to be more at fault. This is a rare instance in which the fault is all on the actor's side.
The guy they got to play the role exudes a weird kind of creepiness. He's supposed to be a sweet, naive, nerdy kid who is dazzled by meeting real live aliens! And one of them is a hot chick! Who is interested in him! Well, why wouldn't he be dazzled by such things? We shouldn't regard him as an idiot for just being young.
The actor doesn't synch with the persona of a sweet, naive, nerdy kid. As harsh and unfair as this may sound, he comes off as an actor who should be playing the high school quarterback who slips roofies to all his dates.
Solution: have the V's take over his mind and turn him into Anna's minion and the implacable foe of the Fifth Column. The actor just doesn't have it in him to gain the audience's sympathy, so make him a villain.
The guy they got to play the role exudes a weird kind of creepiness. He's supposed to be a sweet, naive, nerdy kid who is dazzled by meeting real live aliens! And one of them is a hot chick! Who is interested in him! Well, why wouldn't he be dazzled by such things? We shouldn't regard him as an idiot for just being young.
The actor doesn't synch with the persona of a sweet, naive, nerdy kid. As harsh and unfair as this may sound, he comes off as an actor who should be playing the high school quarterback who slips roofies to all his dates.
Solution: have the V's take over his mind and turn him into Anna's minion and the implacable foe of the Fifth Column. The actor just doesn't have it in him to gain the audience's sympathy, so make him a villain.
What show have you been watching? 
Tyler in the first couple of episodes was getting into fights-he was at the hospital being treated after a dust up with someone, cause he'd been out all night with his (now awol) buddy, Ditching school, and tagging walls with V graffiti after they arrived. LOL, he is the creepy quaterback, and was never the introspective nerd pining for true love.
If they intended him to be the creepy quarterback, then I take it back, it's the writers' fault too! Great way to sabotage the character before the actor even has a chance to make us like him regardless.
The role really belongs to the sweet teen nerd. That's the only way we're going to be sympathetic to the character - if we give him a pass for being young and foolish. But that would require different writing and definitely a different actor.
The fighting and staying out all night suggests a slightly different variation - the troubled loner teen. A James Dean type wouldn't be a bad way to go, but he's gotta have a fair bit of nerdiness to him, or else the audience will roll their eyes at him. How about a troubled loner teen who thinks he's James Dean but is obviously not?
He's definitely pining for true love, though. He was very hurt by Lisa's rejection. Sure, it's an adolescent understanding of love, but that's all he's capable of at his age. That makes him slightly sympathetic, but there's too much wrong with the character to overcome.
Great way to sabotage the character before the actor even has a chance to make us like him regardless.The role really belongs to the sweet teen nerd. That's the only way we're going to be sympathetic to the character - if we give him a pass for being young and foolish. But that would require different writing and definitely a different actor.
The fighting and staying out all night suggests a slightly different variation - the troubled loner teen. A James Dean type wouldn't be a bad way to go, but he's gotta have a fair bit of nerdiness to him, or else the audience will roll their eyes at him. How about a troubled loner teen who thinks he's James Dean but is obviously not?
He's definitely pining for true love, though. He was very hurt by Lisa's rejection. Sure, it's an adolescent understanding of love, but that's all he's capable of at his age. That makes him slightly sympathetic, but there's too much wrong with the character to overcome.
He looks like the younger brother of a friend of mine I knew back in the early '90's. Kid was a real twerp who grew up into an arsehole.
Every time that kid is on tv I just see HIM and thus, I hate him.
Oh and what's with these drippy looks on drippy young guys these days? My partner calls it "The Twilight Effect".
Every time that kid is on tv I just see HIM and thus, I hate him.
Oh and what's with these drippy looks on drippy young guys these days? My partner calls it "The Twilight Effect".
If they intended him to be the creepy quarterback, then I take it back, it's the writers' fault too!
If the intention was to cast a geeky guy then they, in the immortal words of Grand Nagus Zek, FAILED MISERABLY!
He looks like, as you say, a quarterback - and he rides a motorbike! Let's face it, he most likely has to pack a stick in his school bag to fight the girls off with.
There is definitely something odd about that guy. He's written like he's a 12 year old, instead of a kid on the cusp of the adulthood.
He's whiny, weeps in his mother's arms when his girl dumps him and has this constant, vacant stare as if he's recently suffered some kind of head trauma. I don't know if he's trying to play naive, but he comes off as remarkably stupid, or simply stoned.
I think they should just get rid of him. The entire story (which is not exactly zipping along as it is) grinds to a total halt whenever he shows up.
He's whiny, weeps in his mother's arms when his girl dumps him and has this constant, vacant stare as if he's recently suffered some kind of head trauma. I don't know if he's trying to play naive, but he comes off as remarkably stupid, or simply stoned.
I think they should just get rid of him. The entire story (which is not exactly zipping along as it is) grinds to a total halt whenever he shows up.
I think that's the best way to describe him. Given that Anna apparently wants him to breed with err... /Googles .... Lisa, I can't believe they originally planned for him to be younger.
That, plus the weird anti-charisma that the actor exudes, is the whole problem. If they had to go with the handsome-jock type, they needed to take a whole different tack: He's the kid who's always had everything thrown at his feet. Life has been absurdly easy. Now the V's show up and suddenly he's not the center of the universe. Football no longer matters. Hot V chick won't even look at him.
But rather than being angry at this sudden humiliation, he takes it as a growth opportunity. He's been a puerile punk, but he's 17 or so now (he certainly can't pass for any younger) and it's time to grow up. The V's represent a chance for him to vault into manhood, by joining these wonderful, idealistic aliens who have a grand plan to turn Earth into an oasis of peace and free health care for all.
Males hit puberty around 14 on average. A gutsier show would have had him be about 14, too. Wouldn't that be creepy? But why should aliens care about human definitions of age of consent?
Great, now you're saying Obama is a Visitor. He's not Kenyan or a Muslim, he's from another planet!
Aliens might not, ABC network executives probably do. I admit, though, that the plan might go a bit easier if he was 14.
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