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I'd bet money that if we had a real fully functioning USS Enterprise and had a professional film crew on board to document it's real-life adventures, somebody here would nit-pick about something.


Oh yeah; stepdad was a moron After all, it was a THREE HUNDRED YEAR OLD car! If it was an original.
 
I wish people would stop praising that petty jerk RLM as some kind of genius. He's made some insightful points about Star Wars, but his obnoxious nitpicking over "Star Trek: First Contact" is pathetic. This guy is nitpicking too, but he's not nearly as childish as RLM about it, who says shit like "this is the worst fucking movie of all time" talking about "Star Trek: First Contact". What a douche. Most of the things this guy is criticizing didn't bother me as much as they bother him (although I agree that Nero's motivation was so very weak) so I would say he's overreacting a bit, but I don't mind that as much as someone making hyperbolic statements about something sucking just to be smug.

I love the RLM guy. He's far more detailed and comprehensive than this guy who just says "he's a dick" and "this sucks".

The black hole point was good. How would absorbing a star being any better than letting it blow up? Both leave you screwed.


It wasn't the Romulan star that went supernova. . . so, no, that wasn't really a good point. . .


~FS

Agreed. Apparently, this reviewer has not really watched the movie thoroughly enough to make a solid review, since that detail is very simple and can be caught the first time through.
 
"NOBODY IS MAKING CARS ANYMORE!!11!!"

Jesus Christ, they let anyone on YouTube these days... :rolleyes:
 
The black hole point was good. How would absorbing a star being any better than letting it blow up? Both leave you screwed.


It wasn't the Romulan star that went supernova. . . so, no, that wasn't really a good point. . .


~FS

Well, to be fair, the movie never explains which star it is. A supernova that destroys a planet as depicted in the movie would need to be in the solar system. If Alpha Centauri A blew up, we wouldn't notice anything, at least not for the next 4 years. So it is safe to say it was in fact the Romulan star. Even if it's called Hobus. We call our sun Sol, yet we live on Earth. It's not the Earth star or Terran star.
 
Well, to be fair, the movie never explains which star it is. A supernova that destroys a planet as depicted in the movie would need to be in the solar system. If Alpha Centauri A blew up, we wouldn't notice anything, at least not for the next 4 years. So it is safe to say it was in fact the Romulan star. Even if it's called Hobus. We call our sun Sol, yet we live on Earth. It's not the Earth star or Terran star.

Except that Romulans are a warp-capable civilization. . . You'd think that they would know that their own star was going supernova. . .especially since there would be signs of it for thousands of years before it blew, and they would have evacuated (for example. . . the star would have expanded to thousands of times its size, maybe engulfed a planet or two, had out-gassing, changed its spectrum -- that sort of thing). . .instead of waiting for an old Vulcan to save them. . . for a movie that some people claim is dumb, the writers sure thought that viewers would think of this type of stuff and not need it spoon-fed to them. . .


~FS
 
Well, to be fair, the movie never explains which star it is. A supernova that destroys a planet as depicted in the movie would need to be in the solar system. If Alpha Centauri A blew up, we wouldn't notice anything, at least not for the next 4 years. So it is safe to say it was in fact the Romulan star. Even if it's called Hobus. We call our sun Sol, yet we live on Earth. It's not the Earth star or Terran star.

Except that Romulans are a warp-capable civilization. . . You'd think that they would know that their own star was going supernova. . .especially since there would be signs of it for thousands of years before it blew, and they would have evacuated (for example. . . the star would have expanded to thousands of times its size, maybe engulfed a planet or two, had out-gassing, changed its spectrum -- that sort of thing). . .instead of waiting for an old Vulcan to save them. . . for a movie that some people claim is dumb, the writers sure thought that viewers would think of this type of stuff and not need it spoon-fed to them. . .


~FS

Well, THIS part of the audience is intelligent enough to know that a supernova doesn't do what it did in the movie, so I would have needed a little more information about WHY it acts differently (other than: "the plot requires it!" aka "a wizard did it!").

Why does the shockwave travel faster than light? Why didn't they know that a star next to the Romulan system was going nova (and why did Spock no but not the Romulans?)? Why were they surprised by an unusual supernova that was suddenly capable of destroying star systems lightyears away? Why can you vacu suck the FTL shockwave of that special kind of supernova with a black hole? A black hole created very close to Romulus, I might add (which would be pretty bad for Romulus, wouldn't it?).
 
He left out the cadet to captain promotion. And has there yet been any explanation as to why that particular super-duper nova was capable of destroying a huge part of the known galaxy iirc, or why the Romulans would not have noticed something potentially catastrophic happening within a stones throw (relatively speaking) from their home world?
 
The black hole point was good. How would absorbing a star being any better than letting it blow up? Both leave you screwed.


It wasn't the Romulan star that went supernova. . . so, no, that wasn't really a good point. . .


~FS

Which only brings up more problems with the movie.

How is it that the supernova either A. Travelled faster than light or B. Managed to go undetected by the Romulans and their faster than light means of information gathering for months (minimum) until it was too late to get out of dodge?
 
I wish people would stop praising that petty jerk RLM as some kind of genius. He's made some insightful points about Star Wars, but his obnoxious nitpicking over "Star Trek: First Contact" is pathetic. This guy is nitpicking too, but he's not nearly as childish as RLM about it, who says shit like "this is the worst fucking movie of all time" talking about "Star Trek: First Contact". What a douche.

Some of his Star Wars criticisms are just as douchey. This is the guy who got pissed off because all Jedi had lightsabers.
 
I wish people would stop praising that petty jerk RLM as some kind of genius. He's made some insightful points about Star Wars, but his obnoxious nitpicking over "Star Trek: First Contact" is pathetic. This guy is nitpicking too, but he's not nearly as childish as RLM about it, who says shit like "this is the worst fucking movie of all time" talking about "Star Trek: First Contact". What a douche. Most of the things this guy is criticizing didn't bother me as much as they bother him (although I agree that Nero's motivation was so very weak) so I would say he's overreacting a bit, but I don't mind that as much as someone making hyperbolic statements about something sucking just to be smug.

WHAAAAAAA I like it when RLM makes fun of movies I don't like, but he's ALWAYS WRONG about franchises I like! WHAAAAAAAAAAA :lol:
 
Some of his Star Wars criticisms are just as douchey. This is the guy who got pissed off because all Jedi had lightsabers.

RedLetterMedia's Plinkett had the same argument and made some good points about that. When you had the original trilogy that rarely used the lightsabers (until ROTJ), the build up to a lightsaber duel was kind of exciting. However, in the prequel trilogy, they use their lightsabers all the time like it's the most standard thing to use. Just count how many duels there were in Revenge of the Sith. It made the much anticipated duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan redundant and boring, especially when it was inter spliced with the duel between Yoda and Palpatine. I also liked Plinkett's idea that Jedi could have used different methods of dealing in situations that aren't limited to light sabers.

I think that's what this guy is trying to say in his videos but doesn't explain it in detail.
 
I was just supposing that the car was a 23rd century replica. I'm a big fan of 60's and 70's musclecars and absolutely hated seeing them destroy that car. I would hope that in the 23rd century that a truly original Corvette would be in a museum and drivable. Not in some Iowa farmboy's barn where it could get scratched or damaged.

Same here; that Corvette should have been a 2010 Corvette instead. One of my pet peeves about movies in general is how they destroy classic cars in movies like these; the Dukes Of Hazard movie could have had them tool around in a 2008 Dodge Charger or Magnum, and so could have the first Fast & Furious movie. But no, they have to destroy classic cars! Destroy new ones; there should have been enough new Corvettes left after WWIII for Frank to buy and Jim to destroy.
 
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Could the car in question have been both a replica and an antique? A truly original Corvette would have a gasoline-powered engine. Will gasoline still be around 250 years from now?
As to the actual scene. Maybe what went over the cliff was a mockup or CGI, not the actual car. We can only hope.
 
As to the actual scene. Maybe what went over the cliff was a mockup or CGI, not the actual car. We can only hope.
Since the Corvette scenes were filmed near Bakersfield, California, and the real, working quarry (used for modeling the CGI one seen in the movie) is located 3,000 miles away in Vermont, I think it's a pretty safe assumption that no real, live Corvettes were harmed during the filming of this movie. The tipping of the car you saw as Young Jim Kirk jumped free was almost certainly done in the effects studio and, as you'll recall, you never actually saw the car hit bottom - you only heard the sound of the impact.
 
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