Add in the Doctor being forced to disarm/disable him after it doesn't work and I agree with all points. This Doctor has been getting off far too easy so far. Saving the day through the power of love was just too much for me.
5x03 Victory of the Daleks (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!
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If this is an alternate reality it explains the Daleks new look and the fat Churchill.
The Daleks said they found the progenitor device AFTER they fell through time in their ship, this would mean it is the Progenitor device FROM this altered reality, maybe Davros from this reality had a very crappy sense of design....?
The Daleks said they found the progenitor device AFTER they fell through time in their ship, this would mean it is the Progenitor device FROM this altered reality, maybe Davros from this reality had a very crappy sense of design....?
if they start singing "lolly-pop" your partner might be on to something.
The Progenitor was apparently a Dalek reproduction device (thank God the mutants don't get frisky!). The casings and "paradigm" were probably a feature; it would produce whatever kind of Daleks were needed at the moment. It was just dumb luck that the surviving saucer found it, a bit of debris from the Time War. The Cult of Skarro probably didn't have the resources, and definitely didn't have the inclination, to track it down, assuming they knew one had survived at all (remember, after their army was sent into the Void at Canary Wharf, Sec decided the last thing the Daleks needed was more of the old Daleks).
The Cult wouldn't have had trouble being recognized as Pure Dalek, though. Aside from those four, the Dalek from "Dalek," the Emperor from "Parting of the Ways," and the millions from inside the Genesis Arc are the only original Daleks we've seen, and they would've had no trouble using the Progenitor. The Dalek army from "Ways," grown from human corpses, and the one from "Journey's End," made of pieces of Davros, wouldn't have worked, though. I wonder if the Progenitor would've worked for Davros himself...
Also, now that someone suggested it, it's an interesting question of these three survivors came from "Ways" or "End." My first impression was "End," but given their self-loathing (gladly offering themselves up to be destroyed by the purer Daleks), they seem more like the "Ways" Daleks. Smarter than them, though, so I guess it's a wash.
Late to the party this weekend...watched the episode and agree that it was the weakest of the series so far but still was interesting. I'm fascinated by the altered reality and I'm inclined to agree that Amy is the focal point of the crack in time and space. Next weekend should be a blast though...the return of the Weeping Angels and River Song!
...and River meets Pond.
I liked this episode more than the Lazarus Experiment, but it still falls kind of flat. I'll give high marks for the spectacle sure, but everything else is just too rushed.
Oh, did anyone notice that the android has a positronic brain? Apparently the Daleks perfected Dr. Soong's design! Take THAT, Data, Lore, and third-brother-who-shall-not-be-named!
Oh, did anyone notice that the android has a positronic brain? Apparently the Daleks perfected Dr. Soong's design! Take THAT, Data, Lore, and third-brother-who-shall-not-be-named!
I think Doctor Who used the term long before Trek. I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure I've heard the term in one of the black-and-white episodes.
I just ckecked the Who wiki, it's in Evil of the Daleks, a second Doctor story. In fact, the Doctor constructs positronic brains there.
I just ckecked the Who wiki, it's in Evil of the Daleks, a second Doctor story. In fact, the Doctor constructs positronic brains there.
I think Doctor Who used the term long before Trek. I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure I've heard the term in one of the black-and-white episodes.
I just ckecked the Who wiki, it's in Evil of the Daleks, a second Doctor story. In fact, the Doctor constructs positronic brains there.
Orrrr Dr. Soong tried to copy the design but failed in nearly every way! There we go
I think Doctor Who used the term long before Trek. I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure I've heard the term in one of the black-and-white episodes.
I just ckecked the Who wiki, it's in Evil of the Daleks, a second Doctor story. In fact, the Doctor constructs positronic brains there.
*cough* Isaac Asimov *cough"
It's in both stories, apparently, but I remembered it from Evil of the Daleks. In Power of the Daleks, I was preoccupied with being mesmerised that the planet the land on is called Vulcan.
The 'tips of the hat' to Power of the Daleks ("I am your soldier!") & Evil of the Daleks ("The final end!") were nice, if rather minor. But this should have been a 2-parter with alot more of the suspense we saw in Power...
A decent explanation for the Spitfires in space segment wouldn't have gone astray either..
A decent explanation for the Spitfires in space segment wouldn't have gone astray either..
Bracewell designed them and the CGI team made it happen. Simple.
The episode was decidedly average. The new Dalek designs are not as good as the originals. There are certain design elements that need to be maintained and losing the shoulder slats is one of them. The coloured Daleks are a bit childish, and despite the booming voices (Emperor, anyone...?) don't really come off as that scary. It seems like they're trying to emulate the success of The Cult of Skaro, with individual Daleks that can become recurring villains, but I just don't see the appeal. Not to mention the fact that the original Daleks are tossed aside reminds me of the bad aftertaste I got when I watched Alien Resurrection and the Newborn.
We've already been back to the Blitz before with Eccleston, but this trip seemed rushed. There was no time for any characters to develop, no witty dialogue between the main cast and I have to say the tough and brooding Matt Smith is left in the dust by his immediate predecessors.
Plus anyone think the Dalek spaceship resembled an underground carpark meets industrial kitchen?
You raised a good point. I forgot that the crack existed before the Doctor and his TARDIS crashed in Amy's garden. As she travels through time and space with the Doctor, she is unknowingly ripping a huge fissure in the fabric of the universe.
It's also possible that the Doctor is (un)-intentionally traveling to places that already have the crack.
Or following the Tardis itself.
There has always been a season theme. Think of the crack has this season's bad wolf.
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