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I'd imagine Bearclaw's destiny as more... angry. While it might be nice to say he conquered his rage and lived a happy life, he wouldn't be the Bearclaw we like anymore. I like the idea of him attacking people with his Zimmer frame.


About the Andorian hair/feathers: I'd just assumed it was the artist putting their own spin on Andorians, no different than giving them bumpy foreheads and moving antennae in Enterprise.
 
Why has no one utilized Bearclaw since 89? I know Dick Arnold put a ban on reusing non-canon characters but that dude was flushed down the shitcan years ago.
Peter David kinda re-evolved him into Quintin Stone (TNG's "A Rock and a Hard Place"), who then morphed into Captain Calhoun ("New Frontier").
Ian, I so don't see that. Stone to Calhoun, yes. But Bearclaw to Stone...? Dude, that's not even a stretch; the two characters aren't in the same city, let alone the same neighborhood. The only thing they have in common is that Peter David wrote them both.
 
Why has no one utilized Bearclaw since 89? I know Dick Arnold put a ban on reusing non-canon characters but that dude was flushed down the shitcan years ago.
Peter David kinda re-evolved him into Quintin Stone (TNG's "A Rock and a Hard Place"), who then morphed into Captain Calhoun ("New Frontier").
Ian, I so don't see that. Stone to Calhoun, yes. But Bearclaw to Stone...? Dude, that's not even a stretch; the two characters aren't in the same city, let alone the same neighborhood. The only thing they have in common is that Peter David wrote them both.

More to the point, PAD didn't create Bearclaw. Mike Barr did way back in issue 1 of DC's Trek comic. It was Mike who established Bearclaw's angry, contentious personality, and it was Tony Isabella who developed him into a full-blown bigot, with Len Wein and Mike Carlin getting their own shots at interpreting his character before PAD finally got hold of him for a mere eight issues and basically just elaborated on what his predecessors had already done with the character. So to say that PAD "evolved" Bearclaw into Stone and Calhoun is to falsely imply that he was a PAD character to begin with.
 
More to the point, PAD didn't create Bearclaw.

Sigh...

I'm fully aware that PAD didn't create Bearclaw, but he certainly continued developing him, as he did Arex and M'Ress. And Konom.

As far as I could see, as a reader, Bearclaw was the "angry young man" - we had several guys just like him in our old Star Trek club - and it felt to me that PAD developed this aspect further when he wrote the new character of Quentin Stone, and further still when he created Calhoun.

It was my opinion as a reader, way back when the stories were first published. It is my interpretation. Maybe it is totally wrong, but I saw a continuation in PAD's thinking about how one could write a Starfleet officer who permitted his strong, angry emotions to interfere with the performance of his duties. I'm not saying they are identical characterizations, but this reader saw links.

So to say that PAD "evolved" Bearclaw into Stone and Calhoun is to falsely imply that he was a PAD character to begin with.

It is not.
 
As far as I could see, as a reader, Bearclaw was the "angry young man" - we had several guys just like him in our old Star Trek club - and it felt to me that PAD developed this aspect further when he wrote the new character of Quentin Stone, and further still when he created Calhoun.

Then I don't think you're giving PAD enough credit. Heck, he's created plenty of angry, driven, sarcastic characters over the course of his career in comics and prose, so there are plenty of more likely antecedents in his body of work than a borrowed character he worked with for a paltry eight issues. Heck, keep in mind that one of PAD's first and greatest claims to fame as a comics writer is his extended run on The Incredible Hulk, a clear antecedent for his angry, renegade characters (and that was following a short run on Spectacular Spider-Man, an antecedent for his characters' irreverent wisecracking). And his work with Bearclaw and his creations of Stone and Calhoun all took place during his run on Hulk. So it really doesn't make sense to assume that PAD got the idea for such characters from Bearclaw. Rather, Bearclaw just happened to fit well with a character type that was already a major part of PAD's repertoire.
 
So it really doesn't make sense to assume that PAD got the idea for such characters from Bearclaw. Rather, Bearclaw just happened to fit well with a character type that was already a major part of PAD's repertoire.

I'm obviously quite used to not making sense around here. Honestly, sometimes you guys are like a pack of vultures. So now Bearclaw fits well with a character type, but just one post ago he had no connection to Stone whatsoever?

My knowledge of PAD's pre-"New Frontier" work was his TOS comics, his ST novels and his "Atlantis Chronicles" mini-series. I'm aware he wrote "Hulk" comics, but I didn't read them. So I'm hardly "not giving PAD enough credit", I'm just offering my observations that he has toyed with angry young men characters over the years. I see a progression from Bearclaw to Stone to Calhoun. You and others don't.

I've tried sending PAD a message, but I'm not sure if the comment got through on his blog site. I'd love to hear PAD's comments on this.
 
If you're interested in the comics, then my best recommendation would be to check out the DVD Comic Collection. It's $30 and you get every single comic book published before IDW got the license on one DVD.

It's just not the same in my opinion. I really wish IDW would start collecting the DC comics again, but not as stupid "Best of" collections, but a complete, publication-order effort. A series of their "omnibus" editions, 16-18 issues per volume.

Start with TNG! :p

Obviously, their analysis of potential sales has proved such an effort would not be profitable, which is a shame. I just prefer actual books than reading things on a screen.

Forget the omnibuses, use eBay. Star Trek isn't exactly the kind of comicbook that lends itself to appreciation in value (at least, not monetary), so you can find huge bulk lots of Trek comics for chicken feed.

Now, I don't want to get your hopes up, because I haven't checked this stuff in a long time, but I seriously think it might be possible to find the whole 80 issue run of the DC TNG series for as little as $40, opening bid. It might be more expensive then that, but I am, at least, quite sure that there have been regular auction listings of complete runs.

I collected all the DC TOS issues (first and second series, and all the annuals, I think), the old Marvel TOS issues, the whole DC TNG series, Early Voyages, and others, all on a bidding budget of not more than one dollar per issue.
 
But he's not "the" Bearclaw. We need to find out what happened to him.

Somthing other than he ended up running a donut empire!

Heck, with 150-something Admiral Archer, canon human life expectancy just spiked. Bring him back and ger him into a fist fight with Akaar.

And then one with Admiral Robau!

Please Robau would destroy him with just a glare.
 
Well I decided to get a few more of the Archives series today:

Star Trek Archives 1 Peter David
Star Trek Archives 2 Borg
Star Trek Archives 4 DS9

I know I've picked up TNG Volume 1 TPB as well earlier this month that I'm waiting to get.

I've just been away from trek for too long.....WAY too long...spent my time in fandoms that I really didn't belong too......figured it's time to get back to my roots.....Only other comic series I really like are Gi Joe,Star Wars Comics, and X-Men [And some other Marvel DC Series]

I'm sorta confused too with the DS9 Comics.

There are 2 different ones?

Valient and the Marvel Runs?

I picked up the Archives books rather cheaply.
 
I'm sorta confused too with the DS9 Comics.

There are 2 different ones?

Valient and the Marvel Runs?

I vaguely remember a Valiant Comics, but it never had a Trek license. Malibu Comics published a DS9 series from 1993-95. It ran for 32 regular issues, plus some miniseries, annuals, and specials. Then Marvel published a 15-issue DS9 series from 1996-98. And now IDW has picked up the DS9 license and has just finished its first DS9 miniseries, Fool's Gold.
 
I'm sorta confused too with the DS9 Comics.

There are 2 different ones?

Valient and the Marvel Runs?

I vaguely remember a Valiant Comics, but it never had a Trek license. Malibu Comics published a DS9 series from 1993-95. It ran for 32 regular issues, plus some miniseries, annuals, and specials. Then Marvel published a 15-issue DS9 series from 1996-98. And now IDW has picked up the DS9 license and has just finished its first DS9 miniseries, Fool's Gold.

You forgot the Wildstorm miniseries n-Vector.
 
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^There was also Wildstorm's TNG/DS9R (it's actually got Ro, Vaugh, and Shar in it) crossover Divided We Fall.
 
Are there Trade Paperbacks for DS9 Out?

Boxtree in the UK collected quite a number of the Malibu Graphics' run of DS9 in trade paperback omnibuses. I picked up some that I was missing a few years ago, via the Amazon re-sellers, using this list:
http://homepage.mac.com/mmtz/stcomix/boxtreedsntpb.html

This website is the source for who did what when in ST comics:
http://homepage.mac.com/mmtz/stcomix/

You forgot the Wildstorm miniseries A-Vector.
"n-Vector". And it was also collected in WildStorm's "Star Trek: Other Realities".

^There was also Wildstorm's TNG/DS9R (it's actually got Ro, Vaugh, and Shar in it) crossover Divided We Fall.
Collected in German trade paperback as "Symbiose", and a few other languages did reprints/translations, too. But not USA.
 
Are there Trade Paperbacks for DS9 Out?

Boxtree in the UK collected quite a number of the Malibu Graphics' run of DS9 in trade paperback omnibuses. I picked up some that I was missing a few years ago, via the Amazon re-sellers, using this list:
http://homepage.mac.com/mmtz/stcomix/boxtreedsntpb.html
Oh, I didn't even know those existed! Thanks for that, Ian. Hopefully cheap copies exist somewhere out on the internets.
 
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