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STARBOARD THRUSTERS!

Garm Bel Iblis

Commodore
"Turn her INTO the wave!"

Would that have really mattered with a SHOCKWAVE coming at you? seems like you are boned hitting it head on or from the side.

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Perhaps Captain Sulu felt that the forward shields would provide the best protection upon impact.
 
Perhaps Captain Sulu felt that the forward shields would provide the best protection upon impact.

Smaller aspect ratio, means smaller shield area needed, means less power needed. Also, it means you are passing through and will be out of the the wave faster, than running along it getting pushed to port as you pass through it, thus keeping you in it longer.
 
The main deflector points forwards so it makes a certain amount of sense that the forward sheilds are the easiert to reinforce.

However I presume assume it was written like that because that what a real world ship would want to do if faced by a tsunami to avoid being capsized, so it would have felt right to the writer.
 
Naval nonsense like "right standard rudder" is all.

Also, wouldn't firing starboard thrusters turn you to port, whereas the ship turns to starboard?
 
Nope. You would be firing an ungodly collection of dozens of thrusters, which would have the effect of turning you starboard.

It would be idiotic for Sulu to micromanage which thrusters to fire. Any proper command language would call for identifying where to turn, not how. That's how it's done in the real world, too.

Really, much of the Trek pseudo-naval jargon is very sensible and of the sort one might use in maneuvering a real starship. "Right standard rudder" might be overdoing it a bit - but fanboy commands such as "fire ventral thrusters" aren't plausible at any level.

Timo Saloniemi
 
If he's not specifically ordering which thrusters, why not just "Thrusters! Turn her into the wave!"m or just "Turn her into the wave?"
 
Hes spent his whole life as a helmsman; its no surprise if he tries to micromanage that area of his command.
 
Also, it's rather good practice to first give a clear-cut command that the helmsman can correctly execute even if he happens to be largely braindead. It's after this has been done that the CO may opt to explain himself, to better motivate his underling...

I think Trek's pretty consistent on this. "Forward thrusters" gets you out of spacedock bow first; "starboard thrusters" turns the bow to the right. Of course, with a ship that can do translations in addition to turns, it would seem that our heroes would need a separate command for moving right flank first, without turning.

...Which is where "right rudder" might come in. "Thrusters" is translation, "rudder" is turning. Although of course nobody else, anywhere else, anytime else, uses the expression "rudder". And of course Starfleet in general seems to prefer "starboard" to "right", even though the USN specifically avoids "starboard" when giving commands about which way to turn the rudder (even aboard those ships that don't exactly have rudders any more).

That's something of a historical holdover, I think. In the Royal Navy, the helm command "port" only a hundred years ago meant turning the wheel clockwise so that the ship would turn to the right! That was because in historical ships, the arm of the rudder had to be manhandled to port in order to reach this outcome... The USN deliberately chose "right/left rudder" to replace this confusing and antiquated practice.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Any proper command language would call for identifying where to turn, not how. That's how it's done in the real world, too.

I once worked with a director who would call 'down' when he wanted me to tilt the camera.

Unfortunately, he always refers to picture down, instead of camera down, which is what every single other director in the history of television says.
 
I just watched ST 6 today.

I think he should have just poured the power into the shields cause the wave hit them pretty fast it wouldn't have made any difference.
 
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