Didn't Archer torture a prisoner?
IIRC, he only threatened him to throw him out an airlock if he didn't start talking. That's not torture. If you follow through with it, that's murder. If you don't, it's probably an empty threat.
It has to be Sisko conning the Romulans into entering the Dominion war, resulting in thousand of Romulan lives being lost.
But how many more Romulan lives would have been lost if they'd stupidly decided to remain neutral while the Dominion prepared to attack them?
Anyway, I'm in the school of thought that Vreenak had his enemies in the Senate who 1) knew very well what happened on DS9 (either they had direct intel or they deduced the general situation - I cannot fathom Romulans being so dense that they wouldn't have any inkling of what happened) and 2) were happy to keep their mouths shut because they had the same opinion as Sisko and Garak.
I believe there's a novel that takes place shortly after "In the Pale Moonlight" where Captain Sisko meets with a delegation of Romulan senators. One of them very strongly implies to Sisko that he knows or at least suspects that the recording was faked but is still happy to exploit it for his political ends of forcing the Romulan Empire to join the war.
If I disagree with the American death penalty, do I have the right to "not let other people be killed against their will" by breaking convicted death-row criminals out of your jails?
Perhaps. Perhaps not. At the very least, I'd say that, if you had a death row inmate in your custody, you would not be morally obligated to turn him over to his executioners. However, his executioners would be morally permitted to use force to take him from you and you would be morally permitted to use force to stop them. At that point, it starts becoming more of a practical, political argument than a moral one, since, on moral terms, you'll probably just have to agree to disagree.
When Kes came back and nearly destroyed Voyager in "Fury". She used her nearly infinite power in an attempt to destroy the comparatively helpless Voyager crew, and if Janeway hadn't shot her ass they would all have died.
At that point, Kes was no longer the protagonist of the story. She was the antagonist and has no more relevance to this thread than when the Doctor went evil after tampering with his own personality program in "Darkling."
I'm not taking sides here, but I'm reminded of a story I heard recently of Churchill and another official were dancing when Pearl Harbor was struck. At the time, they didn't know the severity or the tragedy of the attack, all they knew was that after months and months of trying to get the US to join the Allies in the war, the Japanese had done that for them. They were dancing b/c they knew they now had a fighting chance.
In this instance, I feel like America = Romulans, the British = UFP.
Klingons will ALWAYS be Russians (thanks, TUC!)
Perhaps, although I always saw the analogy this way:
United States = the Federation
United Kingdom = Klingons. They were the waning empire.
Soviet Union = Romulans. The Romulans had originally signed a non-aggression pact with the Dominon, just as Stalin had done with Hitler. Only later did they join the war on the other side.
But not every human in the DMZ was in the Maquis, surely? Sisko basically ethnically cleansed a civilian population!
Perhaps they weren't all Maquis combatants. However, wasn't it technically a planet that the treaty had ceded over to the Cardassians but the Federation colonists refused to leave? So while they may have claimed to be Federation citizens, they were really part of a secessionist group for which we don't have any name except "Maquis."
I think it's interesting that Janeway murdering Tuvix is getting so many more votes than Riker and the clone murder. To me, those situations are very similar. I'd also say that Riker's actions were slightly worse than Janeway's because at least she had the shaky excuse of getting back two crew members in exchange for the killing. Riker and Pulaski were pretty much just like: "Cha, these clones creep me out, let's kill 'em."
I'm wondering if the clone murder isn't getting a lot of votes because it was presented in a less interesting way onscreen. I seem to remember the clones were sleeping, and Riker looking kind of stressed out and shooting them with a phaser. In fact, I can't even recall if he shot them both, or if Pulaski shot her own.
Also, while the fate of Tuvix was the central question of "Tuvix," the clone killing was kind of an afterthought in "Up the Long Ladder." Perhaps we're easily distracted by all the silly Irish people.
Well, rape is the act of implanting ones' DNA into another without their consent.
No, it's not. If it were, then forcing oneself sexually on someone while using a condom would not be considered rape. Rape is by definition a sexual act forced on a person.
For pete's sake, can we just get Benson & Stabler in here to settle this!
I voted for "Tuvix." That episode can still stimulate some pretty strong screaming matches even 13 years later.
I would also mention "Memorial," where Captain Janeway becomes a willfull participant in the brainwashing of potentially thousands of unwary travelers who pass too close to that planet.
And while it may not be morally questionable, I thought it was certainly boneheaded: "The Communicator." Due to Captain Archer's extremely narrow definition of "cultural contamination," he nearly starts a nuclear war on this planet. Rather than reveal the existence of extra-terrestrial life to the planet's natives, he lied to them, which led them to believe that their enemy had developed sophisticated genetic technology to create some kind of super-soldiers. It could have very easily created such unease in the balance of power that they would have chosen a preemptive nuclear strike. This was the episode that was so stupid & frustrating that I gave up on
Enterprise as a regular viewer.