Hurley's belief that he is cursed is good character development to me . He is very self conscious and a worrier.
Starting to get Lost - cos people keep telling me to
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"Deus Ex Machina" - could see Locke getting screwed a mile off. Dunno about his legs, but I think there's going to be some kind of psychosomatic component to whatever put him in that chair (short of it being infection spreading from the post-op wound into the spinal cord, or him driving the car into something). The guy playing Cooper is familiar...
Oh, it's Kevin Tighe!
Interesting that they got a transmission out, however briefly. And why keep the plane a secret (aside from it'll be Xmas for Charlie if he got the cargo!)? Interesting.
Of course the cool thing, aside from putting a definite term on Locke's chair, is watching Terry O'Quinn get an episode mostly to himself - I've always tried to seek out his stuff cos he's always worth watching. The music was trying a bit too hard for the daytime soap effect, but otherwise this was great, even though it was obvious what the old git was doing.
So, what activated the light? Tears? Voice control? Psychokinesis? EEG reading? And how did Locke get in that chair? Onto the next episode!
"Do No Harm" - and answer neither of those questions! Locke isn't even in it! Bollocks!
Anyhow, a fair bit of tension with one-in, one-out. With Jack busy with Boone, I'd have sent for Saiyid for the baby-delivering. I know, it sounds weird, but in his line of work he's used to bodily mess, and to some degree of patching it up as well as causing it.
Jack's pre-wedding? He's thick as pigshit, isn't he? I've been coming to this conclusion for a few episodes now. And he's a pillock. I mean, bloody hell, this episode made Sawyer look more reasonable than Mr Reasonable here...
OK... So Boone bit it, huh? If he's still dead by the end of the season I'll be either impressed or relieved. Or both. I think. Didn't have much of a reaction to it, probably because he never really grabbed me as a character. Charlie's temporary death a few episodes earlier was more affecting. If they could get rid of Boone's sister as well, we'd have a nice trimmer cast.
Still, props to Boone for having the sense and guts to take one for the team when Jack was trying to be the selfless martyr instead of yer actual martyr... Best thing Boone's done in the series, actually, the incestuous little nerk.
So, in the end, Jack's reading this as "locke murdered him" rather than "we're not so easily able to save people on a fucking desert island." Twat...
Oh, it's Kevin Tighe!
Interesting that they got a transmission out, however briefly. And why keep the plane a secret (aside from it'll be Xmas for Charlie if he got the cargo!)? Interesting.
Of course the cool thing, aside from putting a definite term on Locke's chair, is watching Terry O'Quinn get an episode mostly to himself - I've always tried to seek out his stuff cos he's always worth watching. The music was trying a bit too hard for the daytime soap effect, but otherwise this was great, even though it was obvious what the old git was doing.
So, what activated the light? Tears? Voice control? Psychokinesis? EEG reading? And how did Locke get in that chair? Onto the next episode!
"Do No Harm" - and answer neither of those questions! Locke isn't even in it! Bollocks!
Anyhow, a fair bit of tension with one-in, one-out. With Jack busy with Boone, I'd have sent for Saiyid for the baby-delivering. I know, it sounds weird, but in his line of work he's used to bodily mess, and to some degree of patching it up as well as causing it.
Jack's pre-wedding? He's thick as pigshit, isn't he? I've been coming to this conclusion for a few episodes now. And he's a pillock. I mean, bloody hell, this episode made Sawyer look more reasonable than Mr Reasonable here...
OK... So Boone bit it, huh? If he's still dead by the end of the season I'll be either impressed or relieved. Or both. I think. Didn't have much of a reaction to it, probably because he never really grabbed me as a character. Charlie's temporary death a few episodes earlier was more affecting. If they could get rid of Boone's sister as well, we'd have a nice trimmer cast.
Still, props to Boone for having the sense and guts to take one for the team when Jack was trying to be the selfless martyr instead of yer actual martyr... Best thing Boone's done in the series, actually, the incestuous little nerk.
So, in the end, Jack's reading this as "locke murdered him" rather than "we're not so easily able to save people on a fucking desert island." Twat...
I can't pick a single favourite episode of Lost, but Deus Ex Machina is one of the three I've whittled it down to. It was the first episode Lindelof and Cuse wrote together, the first of many. The final scene is my favourite in the whole show, the image of a man covered in another man's blood, angry at the gods, his faith renewed by... I had better not say, but the scene only becomes more poignant once you learn what happened inside the hatch that night.
"I've done everything you wanted me to do, so why did you do this... TO ME?!!!"
A line I've used frequently over the last few years.
"I've done everything you wanted me to do, so why did you do this... TO ME?!!!"
A line I've used frequently over the last few years.
Personally, I love the music in that scene. Sure, it's trying really hard to be emotional, but it was an emotional scene, both in the flashback and on the island. Overall I'm a fan of Michael Giacchino's work on the show, although I do prefer Bear McCreary's work on BSG.
Jack is a very stubborn man and that often causes him to do stupid things because of a grudge and then stick with them even after it becomes obvious that they're stupid. If you can accept that then he becomes a reasonably interesting character. He can best be summed by a line he says in the season 4 finale: "No he didn't."
I liked Boone, I could identify with him. He was useless and kept screwing up, but I imagine that if I was ever in his situation I'd be him; the incompetent redshirt. So I felt bad when he died.
I don't think you were supposed to be able to understand that in this episode. People were pulling audio clips and listening to them repeatedly, and there was still disagreement for a long time about exactly what was in that transmission. One common version was, "There were no survivors of Flight 815!"
That's what I thought it said.
Having said that, the other interpretation wouldn't surprise me that much - I've been expecting it since about the third episode when they outright mentioned that nobody knew where the tail section landed, and the older black woman still felt her man was alive in it. In fact, if not for Russeau saying there were others on the Island well before the crash, and his name not being on the manifest at all, I half thought Ethan might be from there.
Deus Ex Machina and Do No Harm are two of my favorite episodes. There's some gut wrenching emotional impact in both of these episodes, and when you find out what exactly happened when that light in the hatch turned on you are going to be Blown. The. Fuck. Away. It's the definitive scene of the entire series for me.
My memory of Deus Ex Machina was that we saw a hideous hooded figure in Locke's dream, and I took that to be the spirit of the island. It wasn't until I saw it again on DVD that I saw that it was Locke's mother. 
I wouldn't go that far, but, yeah, it was a nice reveal.
Well...it's my favorite scene.
Here's hoping this reveal/development is in season 1, seeing as I've only got 4 episodes to go...
I not quite sure which scene you're referring to. There were several good ones relating to that event, but I don't recall any of them warranting that reaction.
It's my favourite too, I just prefer the other angle.
Lonemagpie, don't be expecting a huge, Earth-shattering revelation about that light, the beauty of the "other side" of that scene isn't based in plot, but in character. Your reaction wont be "Holy bleep of Bleepistan!" it will be "Oh." But in a good way.
Agreed.
I think my reaction was, "Oh, that's neat."
Honestly, I had a stronger reaction to the scene in Season 5.
"The Greater Good" - Now that was more like it. Jack's still thick, and Shannon needs to be, I dunno, locked up in a pit somewhere... But this was all Saiyid and Locke, and all the better for it.
My two favourite characters, doing their thing, cool. Liked the Spaghetti Western riff to the music at Locke's confession to Saiyid.
The Saiyid flashback story was a bit less interesting, but he's bloody lucky his brother chose the trigger instead of the button.
Nice standoff at the climax, but it really drives home that Jack's thick. And at least Shannon got something interesting to do, though it does kind of lean towards being a danger to everybody.
The tag scene at the end was nice too, and also a relief - I'm relieved that Saiyid *wasn't* actually fooled by Locke's fib earlier...
On with "Born To Run" next, so I'll comment on that tomorrow.
My two favourite characters, doing their thing, cool. Liked the Spaghetti Western riff to the music at Locke's confession to Saiyid.
The Saiyid flashback story was a bit less interesting, but he's bloody lucky his brother chose the trigger instead of the button.
Nice standoff at the climax, but it really drives home that Jack's thick. And at least Shannon got something interesting to do, though it does kind of lean towards being a danger to everybody.
The tag scene at the end was nice too, and also a relief - I'm relieved that Saiyid *wasn't* actually fooled by Locke's fib earlier...
On with "Born To Run" next, so I'll comment on that tomorrow.
Mine was, "Oh, they actually didn't completely forget about that scene like I thought they did."
Who could have known just how important that scene was going to be to the history of the series?
I didn't. That scene constituted a continuity/production error! 
I didn't. That scene constituted a continuity/production error!
LOL at the advert on the right for "The Complete Fifth Season" 
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