Small plane crashes into building in Texas

[bigdaddy]

An interesting story, some people are saying it isn't terrorism others are saying that it is that this crazy guy lite his house on fire and then fly a plane into this building that has government offices.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_plane_crash_law_enforcement

It sounds like to be that a tea bagger was pissed off.

 

[cultcross]

some people are saying it isn't terrorism

This should be the default position. Not every plane crash is automatically terrorism; has a light aircraft of this type ever been used in domestic terrorism?

 

[bigdaddy]

some people are saying it isn't terrorism

This should be the default position. Not every plane crash is automatically terrorism; has a light aircraft of this type ever been used in domestic terrorism?

I completely agree however it now seems it is terrorism. The guy stole the plane and crashed it! That's terrorism.

Plus before 9-11 how many 747s were hijacked and crashed into buildings?

 

[bigdaddy]

It is a criminal act, but not an act of terrorism!

What the fuck!!!!! A plane crashed into the building I'm in I'm terrorized! This is fucking terrorism you god damn fucking stupid newS bitch! Just because the guy's name is Joe Bob Smith and not Muhammad doesn't mean it's not terrorism!

 

[RoJoHen]

You are "terrified." Terrorism has to involve specific intent to spread terror. Terror is the goal of terrorism. We don't know why this guy crashed the plane.

 

[cultcross]

The guy stole the plane and crashed it! That's terrorism.

No it's not. At least not automatically. It's stealing an aircraft, and then deliberately crashing it. Which government policies was he hoping to alter through terrorist tactics?

It is a criminal act, but not an act of terrorism!

What the fuck!!!!! A plane crashed into the building I'm in I'm terrorized! This is fucking terrorism you god damn fucking stupid new bitch! Just because the guy's name is Joe Bob Smith and not Muhammad doesn't mean it's not terrorism!

Yes it does. Terrorism is using tactics of violence or intimidation to effect change in government policy or to force a set of demands. Violent crime is not automatically terrorism because someone was terrified.

 

[bigdaddy]

What was the guy who blew up the FBI building in OK City trying to effect? That was terrorism!

If this guy was a Muslim or even looked like one it would be called terrorism by EVERYONE!

If I made a bomb and drove into a building that isn't terrorism? The guy crashed the plane into the building for a reason, it wasn't because he lost control of a plane. That's terrorism.

 

[cultcross]

What was the guy who blew up the FBI building in OK City trying to effect?

America' Militia Movement was his cause.

If this guy was a Muslim or even looked like one it would be called terrorism by EVERYONE!

This is not an argument that supports your position that it is terrorism, merely that people jump to conclusions based on bigotry. No shock there.

If I made a bomb and drove into a building that isn't terrorism?

It depend son your purpose. If you intend to change government policy or force a series of demands through organised intimidation or violence, yes. If not, no. That's what terrorism is. It's not just a synonym for violent crime.

The guy crashed the plane into the building for a reason, it wasn't because he lost control of a plane. That's terrorism.

No, it isn't.

 

[RevDMV]

Some folks on another forum found the pilots online suicide note/manifesto.

Angry person trying to take people with him and attributing it to a higher cause, good luck with that next lifetime...

 

[RoJoHen]

The guy crashed the plane into the building for a reason, it wasn't because he lost control of a plane. That's terrorism.

Not necessarily.

Maybe he was crazy. Maybe he just didn't like the way the building looked and took it too far. Those reason wouldn't be terrorism.

You can't call it terrorism until you know WHY he did it.

 

[bigdaddy]

So if I set a nuke off in NYC only because I want to see the cool looking cloud that isn't terrorism?

 

[auntiehill]

..... This is fucking terrorism you god damn fucking stupid new bitch! Just because the guy's name is Joe Bob Smith and not Muhammad doesn't mean it's not terrorism!

My. This will end well.


Let me get my popcorn.

 

[RoJoHen]

So if I set a nuke off in NYC only because I want to see the cool looking cloud that isn't terrorism?

Not technically.

It's a heinous crime. It's mass murder. It's a lot of awful things, but it's not terrorism because you didn't have that in mind when you were doing it.

Terrorism is about the intent of the act, not the reactions to it.

 

[Rii]

In related news, the United States is a terrorist nation.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

It is a criminal act, but not an act of terrorism!

What the fuck!!!!! A plane crashed into the building I'm in I'm terrorized! This is fucking terrorism you god damn fucking stupid new bitch! Just because the guy's name is Joe Bob Smith and not Muhammad doesn't mean it's not terrorism!

Infraction Reversed. Never mind. It was just a misunderstanding because of a typo.

 

[AstroSmurf]

Who cares if it is terrorism or not. Right now I am more worried about the people in the building... one of which posts here. I just can't remember which building they work in right now and I am more than a bit nervous about it.

Does that put a face on this for you or are we going to keep bitching about a label?

 

[bigdaddy]

I'd like to make myself clear, I was not yelling at cultcross, I was yelling at the stupid NEWS (not new) bitch on New England Cable News. A bit of a typo.

More so it doesn't make sense to call cultcross a "new bitch" because he/she has 16,000 posts.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Also the guy seemed to post a letter bitching about the IRS, can we call it terrorism now?

Also only one person seems to be missing that may or may not have been in the building. Which is good.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I'd like to make myself clear, I was not yelling at cultcross, I was yelling at the stupid NEWS (not new) bitch on New England Cable News. A bit of a typo.

More so it doesn't make sense to call cultcross a "new bitch" because he/she has 16,000 posts.

Just wanted to clear that up.

No worries. I reversed the infraction. I was a little confused about the "new bitch" comment myself.

 

[bigdaddy]

Also some good news, the one person missing is the pilot, so he is long dead. So it seems he thankfully didn't kill anyone.

 

[ALF]

I just read his suicide note available at CNN.com.

What's shocking is that he makes a lot of very good points, albeit very Michael Moore~esque. The IRS created a loophole that somehow made it impossible to prepare for retirement, or something like that? I skimmed it, there was a lot of ranting.

If he hated the way money flowed through America so much, he could have left the country and started another life somewhere. If you hate your country, you should leave.

Lucky no one was killed.