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O'Brien out, Leno back in?

Does anyone else think that the Late Night show host is a cursed position? I guarantee that in 15 years we'll see Fallon in the same sort of debacle that Conan is in now and Letterman was back then. It's only a matter of time...
 
Spot's Meow said:
Does anyone else think that the Late Night show host is a cursed position? I guarantee that in 15 years we'll see Fallon in the same sort of debacle that Conan is in now and Letterman was back then. It's only a matter of time...
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I'd say the "curse" is being on NBC in the first place. :lol:
 
So, anyone else going to watch the golden globes just to "see what happens?"

O'Brien, NBC separation may upstage Golden Globes: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60E0YO20100117

After being named host, he [Ricky Gervais] told Reuters: "Everyone is sitting around drinking. I'm going to be drunk, and I'm not going to rehearse. So, it's the perfect gig for me."
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Some more names for Conan's last week. Hanks, Scorcece, Manilow: http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/conans-last-week-hanks-scorsese-manilow-13090

Barry Manilow has long been scheduled to appear next week (on Thursday's episode), before LateNightCrisis2010 broke out. Some websites have reported that Manilow will do a sort of Bette Midler-like farewell tribute on Friday's episode...
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The Wrap is also reporting that Conan's camp is furious over reports he stiffed his staff in his exit deal: http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/conan-obrien-report-he-stiffed-staff-‘outrageous-lie’-13080
 
So does anyone know if it's true that NBC is putting a clause in his exit contract that Conan cannot go to another network for a set number of years?
 
nx1701g said:
So does anyone know if it's true that NBC is putting a clause in his exit contract that Conan cannot go to another network for a set number of years?
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there is always a clause of this sort in broadcasting contracts. its meant to pre-empt them from jumping ship to another network simply because of a better offer.

however i doubt it works both ways, as in this case with NBC ending the contract themselves its probably a dead issue, just something their lawyers balked on to use as a scare tactic against Conans people.
 
AnyStar said:
nx1701g said:
So does anyone know if it's true that NBC is putting a clause in his exit contract that Conan cannot go to another network for a set number of years?
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there is always a clause of this sort in broadcasting contracts. its meant to pre-empt them from jumping ship to another network simply because of a better offer.

however i doubt it works both ways, as in this case with NBC ending the contract themselves its probably a dead issue, just something their lawyers balked on to use as a scare tactic against Conans people.
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NBC isn't ending the contract, Conan in a way quitting. There is nothing in his contract that says his show has to start at 11:35pm, and Conan refuses to move so Conan is the one leaving.
 
bigdaddy said:
AnyStar said:
nx1701g said:
So does anyone know if it's true that NBC is putting a clause in his exit contract that Conan cannot go to another network for a set number of years?
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there is always a clause of this sort in broadcasting contracts. its meant to pre-empt them from jumping ship to another network simply because of a better offer.

however i doubt it works both ways, as in this case with NBC ending the contract themselves its probably a dead issue, just something their lawyers balked on to use as a scare tactic against Conans people.
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NBC isn't ending the contract, Conan in a way quitting. There is nothing in his contract that says his show has to start at 11:35pm, and Conan refuses to move so Conan is the one leaving.
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Except that the tonight show has started at 1130 it's entire existence... I think that 56 years is a heck of a precedent.
 
Roger Wilco said:
Data Holmes said:
The Wrap is also reporting that Conan's camp is furious over reports he stiffed his staff in his exit deal: http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/conan-obrien-report-he-stiffed-staff-‘outrageous-lie’-13080
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Wow, I had no idea there are 200 (!) people working for such a show, that's incredible.
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Writers, Producers, camera men, lighting and other set staff, makeup, the warm up guy, Conan has many of these same people since he started on late night.
 
I dont watch either of them so I dont care what they do. The only time I will actually stay up to watch the Tonight Show is if it has a guest on it that I like and that is pretty rare.
 
Data Holmes said:
bigdaddy said:
AnyStar said:
there is always a clause of this sort in broadcasting contracts. its meant to pre-empt them from jumping ship to another network simply because of a better offer.

however i doubt it works both ways, as in this case with NBC ending the contract themselves its probably a dead issue, just something their lawyers balked on to use as a scare tactic against Conans people.
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NBC isn't ending the contract, Conan in a way quitting. There is nothing in his contract that says his show has to start at 11:35pm, and Conan refuses to move so Conan is the one leaving.
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Except that the tonight show has started at 1130 it's entire existence... I think that 56 years is a heck of a precedent.
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which is why it wont hold water in court (if it came to that)
NBC is breaking the spirit of the contract, if not the letter.
 
Data Holmes said:
bigdaddy said:
AnyStar said:
there is always a clause of this sort in broadcasting contracts. its meant to pre-empt them from jumping ship to another network simply because of a better offer.

however i doubt it works both ways, as in this case with NBC ending the contract themselves its probably a dead issue, just something their lawyers balked on to use as a scare tactic against Conans people.
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NBC isn't ending the contract, Conan in a way quitting. There is nothing in his contract that says his show has to start at 11:35pm, and Conan refuses to move so Conan is the one leaving.
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Except that the tonight show has started at 1130 it's entire existence... I think that 56 years is a heck of a precedent.
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Which is why NBC is paying him millions to walk away and even allowing him to come back on the air this fall on another network. They don't have a leg to stand on and they know it. If they DID then they'd tell Conan to fuck off and be done with it.
 
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