Myself. Because showing the Doctors mother is lame and removes some element of mystery about the Doctor. The fact that they didn't just come out and say it means they probably felt the same way.
The Woman? (Spoilers)
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Myself. Because showing the Doctors mother is lame and removes some element of mystery about the Doctor. The fact that they didn't just come out and say it means they probably felt the same way.
That music was a version of the "Flavia's theme" as RTD called it and you could hear in The End Of The World in the fan scene. Donna's theme is somewhat different almost like a theme from a screwball comedy.
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Just to kind of back up what we've all been noticing upon a re-watch, I just skimmed through the script of EOT Part 2 that's up on the Writer's Tale website, and it specifically states that the Doctor looks at Wilf. Then Sylvia. Then Donna.
And even in the script, there's no absolute indication as to who The Woman is. So it's still up for individual interpretation. I think I'll stick with it being his mom, but I'd still be rather thrilled if it was Susan instead.
Joy
PS: I can't remember if it was here or on Livejournal, but some people were discussing whether the other "weeping" Gallifreyan was a Time Lord or Time Lady... In the script it is said that it's a man. And, honestly, I don't know how some of those people could have thought it was a woman; his height, build, big hands, and the fact that he's wearing the intricate robes that the Lords are wearing as opposed to the solid-color robes the Ladies were wearing.... well, yeah, it was obviously a guy. Oh, and you can get very, very quick glimpses of the guy in the Confidential, and I'm pretty darned sure that's not Matt Smith, some had speculated.
Just to kind of back up what we've all been noticing upon a re-watch, I just skimmed through the script of EOT Part 2 that's up on the Writer's Tale website, and it specifically states that the Doctor looks at Wilf. Then Sylvia. Then Donna.
And even in the script, there's no absolute indication as to who The Woman is. So it's still up for individual interpretation. I think I'll stick with it being his mom, but I'd still be rather thrilled if it was Susan instead.
Joy
PS: I can't remember if it was here or on Livejournal, but some people were discussing whether the other "weeping" Gallifreyan was a Time Lord or Time Lady... In the script it is said that it's a man. And, honestly, I don't know how some of those people could have thought it was a woman; his height, build, big hands, and the fact that he's wearing the intricate robes that the Lords are wearing as opposed to the solid-color robes the Ladies were wearing.... well, yeah, it was obviously a guy. Oh, and you can get very, very quick glimpses of the guy in the Confidential, and I'm pretty darned sure that's not Matt Smith, some had speculated.
When I saw the woman, I too thought she was a future iteration of Donna, as I stated earlier in this thread. Which explained to me why she only was talking to Wilf. She was always close to her grandfather, so if she was in his time frame and vicinity she would naturally go to him. I thought her to be a future version after she had managed to assimilate the metacrisis and regenerated into full Time Lady form.
But, if she was also the Doctor's mother (with the Doctor obviously unaware of it), it makes the connection between him, Donna and Wilf even more plausible. Who else on Earth could track down the Doctor but his own mother and great-grandfather? Why else would Donna be able to hear the heartbeat of the human Doctor through time and space? Why did the severed hand only call to her when Rose and Jack were also around after it had absorbed the Doctor's regeneration energy? They are family. It makes sense.
But something tells me this is one of those things about the Doctor that will never be explained beyond what we have already seen. It would dispel too much of the mystery of the Doctor's true origins if they came right out and said it. Better to let the fans fill in the blanks with their own imaginations. It is more fun for us that way.
It'd be like RTD to intentionally leave it unanswered and ambiguous. That way we'll constantly be debating, discussing and deconstructing just who "The Woman" really is. In the end that's what he wants most, to have the series lasting as long in the interests of the public as it possibly can.
Well, I can't see many people but us hardcore fans analsying this. I doubt your average member of the public understood a lot of TEOT, let alone gave much though after to who The Woman was.
And even then, they probably wouldn't know who Susan is anyway.
Well he left it open on the show, but in his book he claimed the woman is the Doctor's mother. I thought it could've been The White Guardian.
My wife is as casual a fan of the new series as you can get and has seen none of the old series. She had no problem following TEOT and guessed that the old woman was the Doctor's mother.
My mom had the same experience. She followed the episode just fine. She even asked me at the end, "Who do you think that woman is? I think it's his mom."
