Riker screwed up the holoprogram.
Next problem...
Next problem...
Doug Drexler refits the NX-01
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There is nothing in Riker's hologram that expressly and clearly denies the notion that the NX-01 Enterprise seen in "These Are the Voyages..." could be significantly different than the NX-01 Enterprise seen in previous episodes of ENT.
So, yes, it is possible, at least in theory, for the NXerprise to have changed during the "missing link" time between "Terra Prime" and the NX-01's final voayge in 2161.
So, yes, it is possible, at least in theory, for the NXerprise to have changed during the "missing link" time between "Terra Prime" and the NX-01's final voayge in 2161.
Ya know- you may have hit the nail on the head. All the continuity issues- it was Riker! We've been watching one long holodeck programme! That bastard!!!
We're screwed one way or the other. Doomed to argue our points of view over every little Trek fact.
I Love Star Trek!
And we can debate canon all we want, but some things are unavoidable:
1) TATV, as aired, is universally hated. Who the hell is going to come right out and say they liked that crap? Admit it, no one likes that episode. No one COULD like it. It's impossible. People are going to want a way out of it, canon issues be DAMNED.
2) The way TATV was rationalized in the novels is infinitely preferable.
3) No one will ever contradict said rationalization onscreen, because ENT has been cancelled. So we will most likely never see any of these characters onscreen ever again. Future Trek films (and possibly TV series as well) will almost certainly all be Abramsverse.
4) Therefore, while The Good That Men Do and its brethren may not be technically canon, they are EFFECTIVELY so.
Okay, we may argue that the final shot, the only one that shows the NX-01 exterior, is not from 2161, but instead reflects her glory days. Good enough.
Not for me. Substandard writing exists in all the Trek subgenres, including substandard writing pertaining to events later than those shown in the aired subgenre segments. Doesn't mean I should accept crap like TGTMD or Homecoming or Genesis Wave as the definite story of what happens after or between the TV shows or movies.
The makers of ENT the TV show didn't want a refit. They didn't show a refit. They left openings for the possibility of a refit, though, and that's good enough for me. But poorly written books cannot force me to accept or (as TGTMD would have it) abandon belief in a refit like the one done by Drexler here.
Timo Saloniemi
Spock's Brain is a CLASSIC!
Besides. Women were dumb back then. They obviously needed a man's brain because it was superiour and more logical.
There's nothing about TGTMD that precludes the possibility of a refit like this.
I had the same thought the other day that TATV could've shown a pre-refit NX-01 in the supposed time when this reft would be taking place. I didn't watch the entire episode all the way through, just skimmed through it quickly looking for exterior shots, but I couldn't find any other than the Enterprise montage at the end, and that can be explained away as not having taken place during the narrative of the show.
The only on-screen evidence I found were schematics of the ship on various monitors. Not concrete in the least considering it was a holo-recreation.
Rationalise all you like, make up what you like. It's not legal, it's telly, and I guarantee the producers would make anything up or ignore any 'canon' to suit their own ends. Feel free to do the same.
I have to disagree. While I never thought the NX-01 made sense as a ship from 110 years before TOS, I greatly admired the design and the way it particularly seemed to foreshadow the TMP ship. I could have seen that ship coming fifty years before the TMP ship in a reality where it existed on its own and there was no TOS. In such a place, this NX-01 refit could easily come between the two.
As for rationale, there is Jefferies' stated purpose for the secondary hull-- for fuel and other consumibles. If it is first and foremost a storage pod for ships gping on longer and less-supported voyages, then it makes sense as an addition to the NX-01 design as it was being asked to go farther out into space. Its role as an "engineering hull" would be an outgrowth of the fact there was space there to incorporate the in-hull "guts" of what was needed to get them to these far-flung places.
So, while I disagree with the idea of that beautiful design being a distant ancestor of 1701, this new iteration makes sense to me as a refit of NX-01.
Spock's Brain is a CLASSIC!
Besides. Women were dumb back then. They obviously needed a man's brain because it was superiour and more logical.
Three words of advice for you ('cause you are going to need them): Duck and Cover.
Very cool ship. Thanks for the link!
I'm not feelin' it - looks better as the Akiraprise. :P
