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The End Of Time Part 1 - Comment & Grading SPOILERS

After watching this, I'll be glad to see Russell T. Davies go, as I think he's gone a bit overboard. The Master flying??? Shooting energy beams out of his hands? Putting his head onto the bodies of the entire human race? And then there was one of the most pointless chase scenes in Doctor Who history where the Doctor runs after the Master in the bit of wasteground (right before he meets Wilf). Honestly, I'll never say anything bad about the 1996 TV movie again. The only bits I liked were Wilf, and seeing the Time Lords again at the very end. But apart from that, pretty weak and silly.
 
Seemed to be a fairly standard "set up" episode with good bits and bad and a strong cliffhanger, there seems to be a lot of love and a lot of hate for this episode about but I only thought it was a just above average episode.
I did enjoy The Master and Wilf, was great seeing Donna again, but all in all there's some pretty glaring faults with the episode.
 
I am curious about what's going to happen with the Time Lords. I hope they don't kill them off all over again, as I reckon that would kind of spoil the whole point of them coming back after such a long time. Wonder what Dalton meant by "For the end of time" though? Maybe he's referring to the Time Without Gallifrey?
 
OMG, OMG, OMG!!!!

I can't believe that ending!! I kinda figured the Time Lords would return, but I thought they'd be back in the second part, not the first!

John Simm's brilliant as the Master. That bit with the Master turning everyone into a copy was just scary!

Can't wait for next week! Kinda befuddled how they're bringing in the scenes with Sarah-Jane, Rose, Jack and Verity that have been leaked about...

9/10
 
I thought it was great; Simm was fantastic, and the final scenes were chilling! Dalton has a great narration voice.
 
John Simm's brilliant as the Master. That bit with the Master turning everyone into a copy was just scary!

I like it too, and I hated the NuMaster last time around. I was quite disappointed to hear he was to be present in the finale, but the episode turned that right around.

Compared to the last scheme, a general take over of the galaxy, this was fitting for the Master to me. Having been thwarted for so long, at the hands of the Doctor, to twist his "favourite" species. Quite a bit of mockery overkill.

And Wilf, fair play to you! Great to see him back too.
 
Wilf was good. Everything else was overblown, bombastic shite. Very disappointed.
 
so the Time Lords are back, this is good but did Dalton really have to spit every word he said. It was like that episode of Friends where Joey and another actor were doing that.

That said its quite hard to review this episode given its a true Part 1, I may have to review the whole thing, but the one (serious) question I do have, is what is with the Master having superpowers, ok so its a bit wishy washy the way they bought him back, but I can over look that, but what is with the superpowers?

Everybody turning into the Master, wow that is big, however they have already wrote in the plot device to fix that, and heck they could write in a second if they wanted to, but as big as it is, its easy to see it being undone.

The conker people seem like something that could work well on the SJA. Which reminds me I wonder what Sarah Jane & co, make of everybody being turned into the Master? were they turned as well? I assume K9 & Mr Smith were not, would they not put there differences aside to try and contact the Doctor?
 
Kinda befuddled how they're bringing in the scenes with Sarah-Jane, Rose, Jack and Verity that have been leaked about...
I'm currently torn between two possibilities.

They're regeneration hallucinations. In past regenerations, the Doctor has relived the adventures of that life before it ends.

The Doctor is getting to say goodbye, in a way, to the people he will actually never meet or who will never know him because history is getting rebooted.
 
oh one more point, is it just me or were the characters a little to anxious of Obamas speech, rather than the Queens speech, it seemed like Obama had somehow become British PM as well, ok so the UK government was in tatters at the end of Children of Earth, having only just survived Harold Saxon, but did they really look to Obama for leadership?

Maybe it was just me who got that feeling.
 
I don't think history will be rebooted. TW and SJA are going to continue, and how can characters like Jack Harkness and Sarah Jane be the same people if they never met the Ninth or Tenth Doctors?
 
oh one more point, is it just me or were the characters a little to anxious of Obamas speech, rather than the Queens speech, it seemed like Obama had somehow become British PM as well, ok so the UK government was in tatters at the end of Children of Earth, having only just survived Harold Saxon, but did they really look to Obama for leadership?

Maybe it was just me who got that feeling.

No, I got that, too. It irritated me the way that the US turning up in Torchwood CoE and taking over irritated me. I just figured it was pandering to the US market. Still, it irritated me the people were like niavely talking about Obama curing the economy and everything. People just don't talk that way in my experience.
 
I don't think history will be rebooted. TW and SJA are going to continue, and how can characters like Jack Harkness and Sarah Jane be the same people if they never met the Ninth or Tenth Doctors?
yes that was always my problem with the idea or a reboot.

oh one more point, is it just me or were the characters a little to anxious of Obamas speech, rather than the Queens speech, it seemed like Obama had somehow become British PM as well, ok so the UK government was in tatters at the end of Children of Earth, having only just survived Harold Saxon, but did they really look to Obama for leadership?

Maybe it was just me who got that feeling.

No, I got that, too. It irritated me the way that the US turning up in Torchwood CoE and taking over irritated me. I just figured it was pandering to the US market. Still, it irritated me the people were like niavely talking about Obama curing the economy and everything. People just don't talk that way in my experience.
they were talking like Obama, like people talked about him before he was president, like he was going to wave a magic wand and everything would be fixed. That talk has died down now, and reality has set in, but Doctor Who took us right back there, understandable on a US show, but seriously and im going to say it, is Obama President of the US & the UK in the Whoverse?
 
Wasn't this episode written at the beginning of the year? Before Obama took office and when the economic crisis was at its highest? It would explain the way people behaved, although it dates the episode...
 
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