Threats & Other Constants Left Unchanged

[Tom]

So just thinking about this from my other thread, what threats and other constants from the original universe will be left unchanged in the altered timeline. For some of the threats there are (off the top of my head):

Vger - Coming to earth
Whale Probe- Coming to Earth
Doomsday Machine - Cutting thru the Galaxy
Giant Space Amoeba - Growing and Ready to divide.

There are threats like Kahn, who's ship may never be discovered so he does not count or anything to do with other planets and organizations like the Klingons and Romulans, all subject to change. The Borg and Dominion are out there but who knows when they will be discovered since events leading to there discovery could be changed. As for super beings like Trelane and Q there out there but we don't know when they will be encountered.

So what else is there that will happen no matter what?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

There's the mining colony where the Hortas live. Spock Prime can tell the Federation about the Hortas now and avoid all that nastiness.

There's the lunatic asylum where Lord Garth takes over. Spock Prime can head that one off, too.

There's the Gangster Planet. I guess the "corruption" has already occurred but Spock Prime can have Starfleet intervene before the situation gets ridiculous. Spock also knows how to defeat the natives via fizzbin.

There's the planet that fights wars by killing their own people and blowing up their own ships. Starfleet can just declare them off-limits.

There's Cyrano Jones and his tribbles. Spock Prime can have him apprehended and executed, and also prevent the poisoning of the quadrum triticale and identify the Klingon spy. Won't he be surprised. I hope Spock still lets Scotty and Chekov have their bar fight.

This isn't a threat, but just for fun, Spock Prime can tell New Spock about Sisko, Bashir, O'Brien and Jadzia's impending visit to the 23rd C. Spock can freak them out by telling them he knows who they are, how they got there, who will win the Dominion War and how (genocide and assassination, go Starfleet! ) and who will win the baseball game with the Vulcans in the holosuite.

There are a few threats that nobody can prevent:

-Kirk splitting in two due to a transporter accident. They can try to prevent the original cause of the accident, but if it can happen one way, why not another way?

-Ditto for accidental travel to the Mirror Universe. Never know when that will strike. At least now Starfleet personnel can be briefed on the threat. But who's to say when an accident happens, it won't be some completely different sort of parallel universe? That one is impossible to prepare for.

And then there's pon farr. Does Spock not need to worry about it now because T'Pring is dead and/or Nyota precludes the issue?

 

[Tom]

There's the mining colony where the Hortas live. Spock Prime can tell the Federation about the Hortas now and avoid all that nastiness.

There's the lunatic asylum where Lord Garth takes over. Spock Prime can head that one off, too.

There's the Gangster Planet. I guess the "corruption" has already occurred but Spock Prime can have Starfleet intervene before the situation gets ridiculous. Spock also knows how to defeat the natives via fizzbin.

There's the planet that fights wars by killing their own people and blowing up their own ships. Starfleet can just declare them off-limits.

There's Cyrano Jones and his tribbles. Spock Prime can have him apprehended and executed, and also prevent the poisoning of the quadrum triticale and identify the Klingon spy. Won't he be surprised. I hope Spock still lets Scotty and Chekov have their bar fight.

There are a few threats that nobody can prevent:

-Kirk splitting in two due to a transporter accident. They can try to prevent the original cause of the accident, but if it can happen one way, why not another way?

-Ditto for accidental travel to the Mirror Universe. Never know when that will strike. At least now Starfleet personnel can be briefed on the threat. But who's to say when an accident happens, it won't be some completely different sort of parallel universe? That one is impossible to prepare for.

And then there's pon farr. Does Spock not need to worry about it now because T'Pring is dead and/or Nyota precludes the issue?

Well we don't now what happens with Garth since the timeline diverged in 2033. Same with the minining colony, was it ever put on the Horta planet.

You have to wonder if Spock prime will get involved and warn about anything, that is a the big mystery.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

On the assumption that the Narada incursion didn't change most things in this reality, I can see a mining colony still being located on a planet with attractive resources and Lord Garth still going to the looney bin. You can certainly come up with a plausible chain of events that leads from "Narada incursion" to "Lord Garth retains his sanity" - other than random events like those caused by transporter malfunctions, any event can be rationalized this way - but is there any reason to bother to do that? Maybe it's more fun if Lord Garth goes squirrely on schedule, despite Spock Prime knowing about it and trying to prevent it.

Got another one. Spock knows Sam Kirk and his whole colony minus his as-yet unborn (?) son is doomed to die via flying fried egg attack. He also knows how to kill the suckers without making anyone blind. Spock can alter the UFP EPA to go fumigate the place before anyone settles there.

 

[Nerys Myk]

On the assumption that the Narada incursion didn't change most things in this reality, I can see a mining colony still being located on a planet with attractive resources and Lord Garth still going to the looney bin. You can certainly come up with a plausible chain of events that leads from "Narada incursion" to "Lord Garth retains his sanity" - other than random events like those caused by transporter malfunctions, any event can be rationalized this way - but is there any reason to bother to do that? Maybe it's more fun if Lord Garth goes squirrely on schedule, despite Spock Prime knowing about it and trying to prevent it.

Got another one. Spock knows Sam Kirk and his whole colony minus his as-yet unborn (?) son is doomed to die via flying fried egg attack. He also knows how to kill the suckers without making anyone blind. Spock can alter the UFP EPA to go fumigate the place before anyone settles there.

He might want to start with the the two planets infected before they hit Deneva