Should Americans be required to buy health insurance?

[Plomeek Broth]

Obama is down with bankrupting future generations. Bring on the gargantuan tax hikes baby! Woo hoo!

 

[sidious618]

Obama is down with bankrupting future generations. Bring on the gargantuan tax hikes baby! Woo hoo!

This bill will reduce the debt by 130 billion IIRC.

 

[drychlick]

No funny i thought i was liveing in the usa not china! in the usa we are free to buy things WE want to buy! PS by the way heath care IS not a right! thank god the men who found the usa are long dead they would not be happy with us!

 

[bigdaddy]

Yes, but if it were cheaper. This new joke of a bill will be thrown out because it makes people buy insurance that isn't regulated and Americans can't afford now.

Is abortion Constitutional? How about car insurance? The Constitution is a 220 year old piece of garbage that needs to be redone after I get more than three poeple to revolt with me and after I kill almost everyone in the south.

And I love this "Obama is spend spend spend". Except when Clinton left we had extra money and 5.5 trillion dollar debt, Bush then had yearly deficits of 600+ billion and brought the debt to 11+ trillion. Bush doubled the national debt in 8 years, doubled it in 8 years. He spent more in 8 years than all the other presidents did in 210+ years!

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

Nope but insurance companies shouldn't deny coverage nor use pre-existing conditions to prevent people from getting health care.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Obama is down with bankrupting future generations. Bring on the gargantuan tax hikes baby! Woo hoo!

Bring on the hyperbole baby! Woo hoo!

 

[Jetfire]

What if you can't afford to "buy" heath insurance? Are you sent to a work camp???

 

[Colonel Green]

Obama is down with bankrupting future generations. Bring on the gargantuan tax hikes baby! Woo hoo!

So are all your posts plagiarized from Glenn Beck, or did you just pick this up from the commercials that play during NASCAR?

 

[Mr. B]

The problem with comparing health insurance to car insurance is that no one really has to drive. Driving is a privilege and a choice. One that you can learn to live without. As I have for the last six years in fact. You cannot do without your health.

True, although the even more glaring difference is that we use health insurance to pay for foreseeable and planned things like dental cleaning, prescriptions and hospital stays for pregnancies.

Nope but insurance companies shouldn't deny coverage nor use pre-existing conditions to prevent people from getting health care.

Why not? How is any insurance company supposed to remain solvent when anybody that already has a million dollars in upcoming expenses can sign up, pay some comparatively infinitesimal fee and immediately get hundreds of thousands of dollars in return? You can't sign up for homeowners insurance while your house is on fire.

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

Why not? How is any insurance company supposed to remain solvent when anybody that already has a million dollars in upcoming expenses can sign up, pay some comparatively infinitesimal fee and immediately get hundreds of thousands of dollars in return? You can't sign up for homeowners insurance while your house is on fire.

Not my problem that I have medical conditions that I couldn't control at all. How is it fair that they keep jacking up my insurance because of an issue that is never going to go away? How is it fair, that they can deny my insurance after they have decided to cover it because it's going to cost them too much to insure me, since something like a heart attack has happened?

The insurance companies are almost a monolopy here in the US. The only thing keeping them out of being brought up in a monopoly suit is because there are multiple companies out there but in reality there is no competition. You need insurance and they can charge whatever the hell they want or you go bankrupt.

How is it fair, that even though I am a productive member of society, I cannot get health insurance because of something I cannot control?

 

[RJDiogenes]

Off the top of my head, I can't think of why mandatory health care would be unConstitutional; it is certainly supported by the Preamble. If buying health insurance isn't made mandatory, then there must be a tax to support all the free care that is given to people without insurance-- which would be stupid, because mandatory insurance would be far cheaper.

But, again, the real problem is the cost of Health Care itself; until that is dealt with, the problem will not go away.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

No Americans shouldn't be required to by health insurance, it should be provided by the government as a function of society. Just pay your taxes instead of insurance premiums and move on. If the idiots that are Republicans would have had an honest debate and discussion maybe we could have gotten that. Instead we got this mess.

Freedom for the wealthy with a slim hope of one day succeeding doesn't sound much like freedom, but it is how the Republican party operates.

This deal was cut behind closed doors with payoffs and bribes. The republicans weren't involved because they were not allowed to be. The libs OWN this disaster.

As far as the second part of your statement, the dems idea of helping the poor is to keep them dependent upon the government. Give em juuuuust enough to keep them voting for the dems. That's no way to live and it's most certainly not freedom. The sad part is that some people think they are really trying to help them. I'd rather take my shot at being rich by providing for muself than beg for a block of cheese.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

No Americans shouldn't be required to by health insurance, it should be provided by the government as a function of society. Just pay your taxes instead of insurance premiums and move on. If the idiots that are Republicans would have had an honest debate and discussion maybe we could have gotten that. Instead we got this mess.

Freedom for the wealthy with a slim hope of one day succeeding doesn't sound much like freedom, but it is how the Republican party operates.

This deal was cut behind closed doors with payoffs and bribes. The republicans weren't involved because they were not allowed to be. The libs OWN this disaster.

As far as the second part of your statement, the dems idea of helping the poor is to keep them dependent upon the government. Give em juuuuust enough to keep them voting for the dems. That's no way to live and it's most certainly not freedom. The sad part is that some people think they are really trying to help them. I'd rather take my shot at being rich by providing for muself than beg for a block of cheese.

The GOP alternative, of course, consists of "let them die."

 

[TheLonelySquire]

Obama is down with bankrupting future generations. Bring on the gargantuan tax hikes baby! Woo hoo!

This bill will reduce the debt by 130 billion IIRC.

Sir, there's a bridge in the borough of Brooklyn, New York that is available for purchase if you are interested?

 

[ST-One]

No Americans shouldn't be required to by health insurance, it should be provided by the government as a function of society. Just pay your taxes instead of insurance premiums and move on. If the idiots that are Republicans would have had an honest debate and discussion maybe we could have gotten that. Instead we got this mess.

Freedom for the wealthy with a slim hope of one day succeeding doesn't sound much like freedom, but it is how the Republican party operates.

This deal was cut behind closed doors with payoffs and bribes. The republicans weren't involved because they were not allowed to be. The libs OWN this disaster.

As far as the second part of your statement, the dems idea of helping the poor is to keep them dependent upon the government. Give em juuuuust enough to keep them voting for the dems. That's no way to live and it's most certainly not freedom. The sad part is that some people think they are really trying to help them. I'd rather take my shot at being rich by providing for muself than beg for a block of cheese.

Then explain to us why countries like, say, France, Germany, hell all of western Europe have a healthier population, enjoy the same freedoms you Americans do and have higher standards of living even though they have mandatory/public health insurance?
Or is it that there might be a correlation?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

No Americans shouldn't be required to by health insurance, it should be provided by the government as a function of society. Just pay your taxes instead of insurance premiums and move on. If the idiots that are Republicans would have had an honest debate and discussion maybe we could have gotten that. Instead we got this mess.

Freedom for the wealthy with a slim hope of one day succeeding doesn't sound much like freedom, but it is how the Republican party operates.

This deal was cut behind closed doors with payoffs and bribes. The republicans weren't involved because they were not allowed to be. The libs OWN this disaster.

As far as the second part of your statement, the dems idea of helping the poor is to keep them dependent upon the government. Give em juuuuust enough to keep them voting for the dems. That's no way to live and it's most certainly not freedom. The sad part is that some people think they are really trying to help them. I'd rather take my shot at being rich by providing for muself than beg for a block of cheese.

Then explain to us why countries like, say, France, Germany, hell all of western Europe have a healthier population, enjoy the same freedoms you Americans do and have higher standards of living even though they have mandatory/public health insurance?
Or is it that there might be a correlation?

We've been over this before. Americans are special. Just because other countries can do something effectively doesn't mean we can. Evidently, we are far too stupid to do anything right.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

No Americans shouldn't be required to by health insurance, it should be provided by the government as a function of society. Just pay your taxes instead of insurance premiums and move on. If the idiots that are Republicans would have had an honest debate and discussion maybe we could have gotten that. Instead we got this mess.

Freedom for the wealthy with a slim hope of one day succeeding doesn't sound much like freedom, but it is how the Republican party operates.

This deal was cut behind closed doors with payoffs and bribes. The republicans weren't involved because they were not allowed to be. The libs OWN this disaster.

As far as the second part of your statement, the dems idea of helping the poor is to keep them dependent upon the government. Give em juuuuust enough to keep them voting for the dems. That's no way to live and it's most certainly not freedom. The sad part is that some people think they are really trying to help them. I'd rather take my shot at being rich by providing for muself than beg for a block of cheese.

The GOP alternative, of course, consists of "let them die."

Well, first off I am a conservative, not a republican. There is a difference.

And most of us are for social safety nets. We just don't believe that the government is our parent. That's really not going to help anyone long term.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

This deal was cut behind closed doors with payoffs and bribes. The republicans weren't involved because they were not allowed to be. The libs OWN this disaster.

As far as the second part of your statement, the dems idea of helping the poor is to keep them dependent upon the government. Give em juuuuust enough to keep them voting for the dems. That's no way to live and it's most certainly not freedom. The sad part is that some people think they are really trying to help them. I'd rather take my shot at being rich by providing for muself than beg for a block of cheese.

The GOP alternative, of course, consists of "let them die."

Well, first off I am a conservative, not a republican. There is a difference.

And most of us are for social safety nets. We just don't believe that the government is our parent. That's really not going to help anyone long term.

On this issue, there is no difference between a conservative and a Republican as far as I care. Both oppose anything resembling universal health coverage.

How are skyrocketing insurance premiums and health care costs going to "help anyone long term"? Please, riddle me that.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

The GOP alternative, of course, consists of "let them die."

Well, first off I am a conservative, not a republican. There is a difference.

And most of us are for social safety nets. We just don't believe that the government is our parent. That's really not going to help anyone long term.

On this issue, there is no difference between a conservative and a Republican as far as I care. Both oppose anything resembling universal health coverage.

How are skyrocketing insurance premiums and health care costs going to "help anyone long term"? Please, riddle me that.

You're right on that point. They don't. Nor should they.

A person should be entitled to purchase health insurance at reasonable rates. Not have it given to them by taking money from someone who has worked harder in life to succeed than they have. I simply cannot fathom how some people think taking what is not theirs is okay.

 

[ST-One]

This deal was cut behind closed doors with payoffs and bribes. The republicans weren't involved because they were not allowed to be. The libs OWN this disaster.

As far as the second part of your statement, the dems idea of helping the poor is to keep them dependent upon the government. Give em juuuuust enough to keep them voting for the dems. That's no way to live and it's most certainly not freedom. The sad part is that some people think they are really trying to help them. I'd rather take my shot at being rich by providing for muself than beg for a block of cheese.

Then explain to us why countries like, say, France, Germany, hell all of western Europe have a healthier population, enjoy the same freedoms you Americans do and have higher standards of living even though they have mandatory/public health insurance?
Or is it that there might be a correlation?

We've been over this before. Americans are special. Just because other countries can do something effectively doesn't mean we can. Evidently, we are far too stupid to do anything right.

Yes, I know.
America Exceptionalism.

This deal was cut behind closed doors with payoffs and bribes. The republicans weren't involved because they were not allowed to be. The libs OWN this disaster.

As far as the second part of your statement, the dems idea of helping the poor is to keep them dependent upon the government. Give em juuuuust enough to keep them voting for the dems. That's no way to live and it's most certainly not freedom. The sad part is that some people think they are really trying to help them. I'd rather take my shot at being rich by providing for muself than beg for a block of cheese.

The GOP alternative, of course, consists of "let them die."

Well, first off I am a conservative, not a republican. There is a difference.

And most of us are for social safety nets. We just don't believe that the government is our parent. That's really not going to help anyone long term.

No, indeed. How could it be helpful to ensure that the population has access to affordable health insurance?