A Show Set In The 25th Century
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What's any of that got to do with a decent TV show? A "soliton wave?" BFD...
A genetically-engineered humanoid black duck frozen since the Twentieth Century, his humanoid pig cadet...
I'd certainly like to see a show set in the 25th century. Move Trek forward, I say! Looking to the future, isn't that what the franchise is all about?
I'd either like to see a 25th century show, or an animated series of some kind. IMO, either of those would be more successful than anything else they could come up with. I know people want a show based in the Abrams universe, with the actors from the new movie, but that ain't happening. You'd never get all of them to sign on for that.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
Next Series.
Time Period: Early to mid 25th Century. 2425 Perhaps.
Location: Alpha Quadrant.
Mission: Explore the rest of the Alpha Quadrant.
Ship: New class of exploration vessel utilising latest Federation Technology.
Captain:
Species: Half Human / Half El Aurian.
Gender: Male.
Age: 292 Years.
Born: Earth in 2133. Mother Human, Father El Aurian. Father kept it secret he was not Human.
Joined Starfleet: 2156
First Service: Served aboard the NX-09 during the Earth Romulan War as Tactical Officer.
First Command: Excelsior Class USS Amazon 2230.
Admirality: Advanced to Admiral in 2260.
Notes: Stepped down from position of Admiral in 2425 to once again explore the Galaxy.
Time Period: Early to mid 25th Century. 2425 Perhaps.
Location: Alpha Quadrant.
Mission: Explore the rest of the Alpha Quadrant.
Ship: New class of exploration vessel utilising latest Federation Technology.
Captain:
Species: Half Human / Half El Aurian.
Gender: Male.
Age: 292 Years.
Born: Earth in 2133. Mother Human, Father El Aurian. Father kept it secret he was not Human.
Joined Starfleet: 2156
First Service: Served aboard the NX-09 during the Earth Romulan War as Tactical Officer.
First Command: Excelsior Class USS Amazon 2230.
Admirality: Advanced to Admiral in 2260.
Notes: Stepped down from position of Admiral in 2425 to once again explore the Galaxy.
At least thirty. The Twenty-Fifth Century begins 24 years after Voyager...
I think any potential 25th-Century series would do well to avoid being weighed down by any of the baggage (and silly technobabble) of the 24th-Century and approach it from the perspective of being a blank slate with new characters and situations unique to that era. If it features an Enterprise-[INSERT LETTER HERE], that should be enough of a link to previous shows. There could be occasional references to 24th-Century stuff, but they should be few and far between, IMO.
It does not matter what century the show is in as long as it's well done! Having it in the 25th century helps keep it away from all the cannon cops out there. 
One problem is there would have to be a way to reduce the level of almost magical technology. When we last left the 24th century they had badge shaped self transporters..jeesh.
One problem is there would have to be a way to reduce the level of almost magical technology. When we last left the 24th century they had badge shaped self transporters..jeesh.
It might be more advantages to set the show in the 23rd century. To get us both away from the canon freaks and the ober-technology. There a lot about that century that's a mystery, set it a few years before TOS and we won't even have to deal with the legend that is Kirk. More new life and new civilizations. Less mind numbing politics and multiple season long wars.
If the new ship is in a totally different section of the Federation than TOS was, then we won't even have to refer to Klingons and Romulans, that means entirely new species to play with.
If the new ship is in a totally different section of the Federation than TOS was, then we won't even have to refer to Klingons and Romulans, that means entirely new species to play with.
The next series should take place in the 25th Century and feature a captain who was once a late 1980s astronaut that got frozen, a spunky female first officer, and their robotic sidekick who goes "bidda bidda" or whatever. The uniforms must be made out of an unflattering white spandex. In the second season, they should introduce some alien birdman, the last of his race.
That would make a pretty awesome show. Why hasn't anyone done that before?
That would make a pretty awesome show. Why hasn't anyone done that before?
Except if we want it to have a chance to survive in ratings. DS9 was very well done but the ratings went down, down, down. The potential audience won't be impressed by the 25th C. As far as they know, Captain Kirk et al live in the 25th C. The population of people who know factoids like that aren't enough to support any show on network TV and maybe not even even basic cable.
For the show to have the best chance of success - and getting Trek back on TV will be an iffy proposition under the best circumstances - it will need the vital marketing boost of being tied to Abrams' movie.
And after that, yeah, it should be "well done." But quality isn't tied to being in the 23rd or 25th C, so that part doesn't make any difference.
Now see here's someone thinking about bankability! Yes, brooding emo Vampire Romulan must be in the pitch.
You actually came pretty close to describing my ideal new series. I would set it in the early 25th century in the prime universe after Romulus has been destroyed, with a group of Romulans as the main recurring villains.
The Romulans would still be a credible threat in the 25th Century. Even back in the 22nd Century, the Romulan Star Empire was big and nasty enough to force at least four races to ally against them in the Romulan War. Even after the Allies won that war (or at least fought it to a stalemate), they felt the need to join together as the Federation, in no small part due to the threat the Romulans still posed. It seems unlikely in the extreme that the destruction of Romulus would come anywhere close to wiping out the Romulan Star Empire...
I think an animated series would work well.
Sorry, but an animated series would not work well at all. Unless it was specifically made to be a comedy (i.e. Simpsons, South Park, Futurama, Family Guy, etc.), no one would take it seriously as a legitimate serious series.
And as for setting a new show in the 25th century? That really doesn't matter either. Setting it in the 25th century, the 21st, the 39th, etc. makes no difference. Enterprise was set in the 22nd century, yet it was pretty much TNG/Voyager Jr., in that the looks, writing, characters and acting was pretty much the same as what came before it.
Additionally, as was said before, if there is going to be a return to TV for Trek, it's going to be based on JJ Abrams' Trek, not anything else. And that's only if the return to TV is next year or so.
Now don't get me wrong. I truly believe that Star Trek will return to television, perhaps in 2020 or so, because Hollywood ALWAYS returns to past successes when they run out of creative ideas (which they do all the time). But by that time, it will have zero to do with the TNG universe.
Not really, because any series--regardless of setting--will have so called "cannon cops" because Trek has always had them and always will. Even if Trek completely started over from scratch tomorrow, it'll only start new debates by new people over new canon. The only way to avoid canon issues is to make sure that nothing links to anything, but then that defeats the purpose of a series.It does not matter what century the show is in as long as it's well done! Having it in the 25th century helps keep it away from all the cannon cops out there.
Which could be easily a non-issue if a new group of writers and producers come in and simply don't copy the "Berman-era" way of storytelling. The level of tech in any Trek series is irrelevant because it will always just boil down to PROPULSION, WEAPONS, and DEFENSE SYSTEM with only silly name changes to tell 'em apart. Anything else depends on how fanboyish or geeky the writers and producers are.
