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"No Smoking" signs in Trek Films - fun to discuss!

^ Agreed. In fact, we've seen the Enterprise successfully deal with more than one fire. In "Up the Long Ladder," didn't Worf even explain the fire suppression systems?
 
could maybe the "No Smoking" mean not the habit, but a request that the ladies not be smoking hot, and run the risk of Randy Kirk Syndrome?
 
Why shouldn't people smoke in the future? Cancer has probably been cured, and they probably would have advanced cigarettes/cigars that aren't harmful to people's health at that point anyway.

I would hope there would be better uses and applications for that kind of advanced technology than trying to make something inherently unhealthy and harmful healthy and harmless.

It'd be like saying that in the future they can do brain surgery as easily as filling a cavity, so there's no harm in shooting yourself in the head.
 
Why shouldn't people smoke in the future? Cancer has probably been cured, and they probably would have advanced cigarettes/cigars that aren't harmful to people's health at that point anyway.

I would hope there would be better uses and applications for that kind of advanced technology than trying to make something inherently unhealthy and harmful healthy and harmless.

It'd be like saying that in the future they can do brain surgery as easily as filling a cavity, so there's no harm in shooting yourself in the head.

Do you like to drink alcohol? Do you take an aspirin when you have a hangover?
 
could maybe the "No Smoking" mean not the habit, but a request that the ladies not be smoking hot,

If so, then there are definitely officers who break regulation.

As for the topic at hand, meh. I always liked to think that smoking was one of those idiotic things that humans grew out of.
 
Sure, cancer: easily curable. Baldness: they're stumped!
I believe it was said by someone associated with Trek, though I can't recall who, that is wasn't that they couldn't cure baldness. It's that by the 23rd/24th centuries, no one would care whether they were bald or not.
Yeah, it was some guy named Gene Roddenberry. I think he worked on one or two of the productions.

He was one of the audio mixers, right?

I would hope there would be better uses and applications for that kind of advanced technology than trying to make something inherently unhealthy and harmful healthy and harmless.

Well...technically, smoking has never been proven to cause anything bad. There have been correlations, sure, but you can't really prove beyond a doubt that correlations bring about an absolute truth.

Unless you specifically did a study of a group of people, split them into two, with one group smoking and the other non-smoking. Let 20 years pass and then see the results.

But that would be considered to be unethical. :p
 
I would hope there would be better uses and applications for that kind of advanced technology than trying to make something inherently unhealthy and harmful healthy and harmless.
I'm not sure I follow your logic here. Are you saying that smoking tobacco is somehow inherently morally wrong? People have smoked tobacco for centuries and many find it to be a relaxing and enjoyable activity. If suddenly the negative health effects could be completely eliminated, why shouldn't someone smoke?
 
I would hope there would be better uses and applications for that kind of advanced technology than trying to make something inherently unhealthy and harmful healthy and harmless.
I'm not sure I follow your logic here. Are you saying that smoking tobacco is somehow inherently morally wrong? People have smoked tobacco for centuries and many find it to be a relaxing and enjoyable activity. If suddenly the negative health effects could be completely eliminated, why shouldn't someone smoke?

Because smoking is bad. :rolleyes:


There is also the difference between smoking things like a pipe or cigar, which are pure tobacco, and things like cigarettes which have a boat load of chemicals added to them to make them more addictive and poison you.

No study has ever been done which specifically isolated just 100% pure tobacco smokers from the Cigarette smokers.
 
Well, this was fun while it lasted.

Next, I'm going to start a thread about other fun (but "naughty") stuff people in the Trekiverse do, and count the minutes till the Buzz Killingtons roll up.
 
^ I know what you mean.

You know, you'd think I would be a natural for the anti-smoking brigade. After all, I'm a lifelong non-smoker who dislikes the smell of tobacco smoke and who readily acknowledges the adverse health effects of smoking.

Nevertheless, I find the obnoxious, self-righteousness attitude displayed by so many anti-smoking zealots much more annoying than any amount of second-hand smoke.
 
Does anyone really think that inhaling smoke is good for you? :wtf:
Let's try again... the question was why people should still not smoke if the negative health effects were eliminated.

Hard to say. If you remove the ingredients that make the product addictive, and the social circumstances that would make the habit "cool," I wonder if anyone would find any kind of purpose in smoking. Why bother?
 
Does anyone really think that inhaling smoke is good for you? :wtf:
Let's try again... the question was why people should still not smoke if the negative health effects were eliminated.

Hard to say. If you remove the ingredients that make the product addictive, and the social circumstances that would make the habit "cool," I wonder if anyone would find any kind of purpose in smoking. Why bother?

Because some enjoy smoking, while not being addicted. And there hasn't been a social situation where smoking has been "cool" for a few years now, in fact it is really quite the opposite now.
 
No smoking sings were just one detail that Nick Meyer put in he also put in other things like for example a guy with a vacuum cleaner; remember the scene between Kirk and Spock after the Kobyashi Maru scene in 'TWOK because thats where it is?
 
See this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRWWfsFr24I at about 4:30.

Roddenberry seems to acknowledge the "No Smoking" sign in the transporter room, and sort of implies it is his idea.


I hate to say, but this isn't news. It was known before there was an internet that Roddenberry bucked the studios on the smoking issue. It went hand in hand with his fighting to keep Spock, and to cast an asian as well as a black woman for bridge crew members.
 
Because some enjoy smoking, while not being addicted. And there hasn't been a social situation where smoking has been "cool" for a few years now, in fact it is really quite the opposite now.

Ummmm...it still does get started up as a thing the 'cool kids' do in most high schools. 'Cool' or 'rebel' now that it's not considered the polite thing to do.
 
Because some enjoy smoking, while not being addicted. And there hasn't been a social situation where smoking has been "cool" for a few years now, in fact it is really quite the opposite now.

Ummmm...it still does get started up as a thing the 'cool kids' do in most high schools. 'Cool' or 'rebel' now that it's not considered the polite thing to do.

How long has it been since you were in school?
 
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