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1 Million Xbox Live Players Banned

MS are not only banning modded 360s from XBlive they are also removing the install game to HDD feature, so once the 360 is banned you can no longer install games onto the HDD, all data on the HDD is corrupt as is your gamertag, that would mean that unless you had another unbanned 360 you could never use your gamertag until you recovered it again.

Talk about kicking them when they are down.:lol:

Dude, are you serious? So, music and photos people put there are being intentionally corrupted by Bill Gates?? Holy jumpin' jackflash lasershits.

As I understand it, the data is not "corrupted," except for your save games, which are no longer transferrable to another console. It also removes the "copy game to hard drive" feature.
 
^^Yeap everything on the HDD is corrupted and usable once your 360 is banned, that's games already installed, gamesaves, gamertag, music......everything....and unless you have another 360 you cant recover your corrupt gamertag.

And the banned 360 can never use the install game to HDD feature ever, no matter how many HDD you put on it.
 
MS certainly came after them with gusto this time, no doubt about it, getting banned is bad enough but losing the the ability to play your games from the HDD must be really annoying, i certainly could never go back to playing games from the DVD, its just to damn noisy.
 
Same with World of Warcraft. I bought it thinking it was similar to the old Wcrafts I used to play, only to find out that when I got it home I have to pay more monthly just to play the damn thing, which I already paid for. Why the hell pay for something that you can't even use unless you pay more?

Frigging racket if you ask me.

Hello fellow Maritimer!

Two things:

Your fault for buying WoW without understanding what you were buying. It says right on the box you have to pay a subscription fee.

Also, I have no problem paying a subscription for WoW. I can pay $60 for the game up front (with expacs) and then $15 a month to play the game I enjoy, that has massive technical support needs and ever-changing content (thats the key thing right there), or I can do what everyone else does and go buy a game for $50 and play it for a month and never touch it again and go out the next month and pay $50 for another game and never play it again, ad nauseum.

Most online games do not have the user base or technical support needs of a typical MMO.

For me, $15 a month is small potatoes for the game and the service I get and the amount of time I play it.
 
To be fair, while I do not play any MMO games anymore, the very reason they do charge you each month is that they are constantly expanding the game. Those servers and bandwidth aren't free, and they continually add new features and regions, fix bugs, etc. to a far greater degree than pretty much any offline game. Considering how much gets changed in WoW on a regular basis, I don't think the $15 a month is unreasonable. Plus, you can buy time cards for it if you aren't interested in paying month after month.

I've played many online games that continually updated and changed over the months/years... heck I still play Team Fortress Classic and Day of Defeat from 1998-99 which still has many players online all the time. Mods, maps, characters/models/skins were all free to download and even create yourself.

Patches and updates were free, quick to install, players and the companies provide their own servers to play which were also free, I don't see any logical excuse for them to continually charge people except for a typical money grab.

heck Second Life is free to install, play online, etc..... it's constantly updating and changing and is pretty similar in operation as WoW.... so what's WoW's excuse?
 
Hello fellow Maritimer!

Two things:

Your fault for buying WoW without understanding what you were buying. It says right on the box you have to pay a subscription fee.

I am aware of this... now. Typically the retailer of the game is supposed to sorta inform you of that stuff as well, along with it being perhaps violent for youths, etc. What it says on the box isn't all that easy to notice from all the other typical writing on game boxes:

(temp image removed)http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/4/534914_front.jpg

Maybe it's just because I'm getting old and my vision is hazy, but considering how noticable it is if you're not normally used to looking for such a notice, and considering I never bought a game before that I had to continue to pay for, as I said, I chalked it up to an unfortunate learning experience.

Either way, it turned me off on the game and the franchise.... the couple of free days they provided with the game sure didn't impress me much either.

I might have been swayed with having one year free from day of purchase, that could at least justify the price, but the monthly cost imo is too damn high for what you're getting in return. Sure, it's only 15 bucks (20 or 30 I think when I got it and where I live) but times that by 12 and you're burning 180 bucks a year..... on one game?

Total waste if you ask me.

Also, I have no problem paying a subscription for WoW. I can pay $60 for the game up front (with expacs) and then $15 a month to play the game I enjoy, that has massive technical support needs and ever-changing content (thats the key thing right there), or I can do what everyone else does and go buy a game for $50 and play it for a month and never touch it again and go out the next month and pay $50 for another game and never play it again, ad nauseum.

I didn't even play it for more then a day and a half before I uninstalled it, packed it back up and handed it to a friend..... If I don't see any logic in paying 15 bucks a month for one game that isn't really any different in content updates and distribution then other games I have played, I sure don't see the logic in buying the silly thing again for $50 just to do it all over again..... it's really not that great of a game.... imo of course.

Most online games do not have the user base or technical support needs of a typical MMO.

For me, $15 a month is small potatoes for the game and the service I get and the amount of time I play it.

For me, I knew I'd be lucky if I played it once a week, thus for me, it didn't make any sense.

In regards to this linking to the XboX live, it's the same thing..... why would I want to pay even more money each month then what I already paid for when I bought a game, when there are so many other online/multiplayer games out there that are just as entertaining and you don't have to pay more every month?

To each their own I guess, but I don't have the money to blow on games that make me feel obligated to play them or lose value in the end. Even if I could just stop for a few months and then continue playing it again, that one month of play that I just paid for would make me feel obligated to play the game as much as I could, or feel guilty that I'm wasting money.

^ And that to me is the main reason I believe people get hooked into the game so easily. Sure it might be interesting and fun, but it's also a method of addiction, much like gambling...... you're putting more and more money into the same thing so you can play and get further then you were before..... Oops.... times up, please insert more money.

Feels like a scam if I ever saw one in the video game industry. Mind you a legal scam, but a scam non the less..... I'm sure many adults know how to manage themselves with such pay as you play content.... but how about kids?
 
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Not for nothing, but I don't think MS cares if they lose pirates as consumers, especially when they take a hit on all the consoles they sell anyway?

There are legitimate reasons to mod a Wii or a PSP, even though most people abuse the ability to mod those systems... but the only reason to mod a 360 these days is for piracy.
There are 2 fairly good reasons I can think of for modding an Xbox. To make the DVD player multi-region, and the make the drive quieter.
 
I am aware of this... now. Typically the retailer of the game is supposed to sorta inform you of that stuff as well, along with it being perhaps violent for youths, etc. What it says on the box isn't all that easy to notice from all the other typical writing on game boxes:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/4/534914_front.jpg

Changed your hotlink to a regular link. Please don't hotlink from sites you don't own.

Thanks

http://www.trekbbs.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_images
 
There are 2 fairly good reasons I can think of for modding an Xbox. To make the DVD player multi-region, and the make the drive quieter.

Why go to the trouble and effort and face the potential consequences of modding an Xbox to make the DVD player multiregion, when you can make just about any cheap DVD player you pick up multiregion with hardly more than a few button presses though?
 
There are 2 fairly good reasons I can think of for modding an Xbox. To make the DVD player multi-region, and the make the drive quieter.

Why go to the trouble and effort and face the potential consequences of modding an Xbox to make the DVD player multiregion, when you can make just about any cheap DVD player you pick up multiregion with hardly more than a few button presses though?
Limited space under your TV/plug sockets, dislike of clutter so you want as few boxes under your TV as possible?
 
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