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Where will You be in 20 years time ?

As long as I have children, I'll be happy :).

Me too.

I'm hoping I'll be hanging out at home with my teenage kiddos, making dinner for my elderly but surprisingly healthy parents while they admire my newest photo books. :lol:


Words clearly spoken by people who have NOT had teenage girls yet.......:lol:

If I was starting today, I would not have kids. Why bring kids into such a messed up world?

It's never been more close to falling apart completely.

Hate to be a pessimist...but...
 
^Children can break your heart, but they are also the greatest joy. All of your dreams and desires no longer involve you. Instead those dreams and desires are wished for your children.

OTOH, I'm starting a pool today. Who wants odds that the Collider will blow up in December 2012?!:bolian:
 
Me too.

I'm hoping I'll be hanging out at home with my teenage kiddos, making dinner for my elderly but surprisingly healthy parents while they admire my newest photo books. :lol:


Words clearly spoken by people who have NOT had teenage girls yet.......:lol:

If I was starting today, I would not have kids. Why bring kids into such a messed up world?

It's never been more close to falling apart completely.

Hate to be a pessimist...but...

When i read your post i thought, "well, no, it was just as bad but in a different way when i was growing up in the 50s and 60s..." but then i thought about it a bit more and realize that yeah, you are probably right. It is scarier these days. BUT i think we have to have the "Star Trek" attitude that there is hope for the future. *crossing fingers*
 
I'll probably be older, fatter and angrier.
Being angry is such a hassle when you are old and fat. Drolling in front of the tv is much easier.

Even more disconcerting is this news:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...breaks-thanks-bread-dropped-passing-bird.html

All those warp core breaches on TNG are making more sense now...
That machine is EVIL. Evil incarnate. Why do we need such a thing? :eek:
This is a joke, right?

If I was starting today, I would not have kids. Why bring kids into such a messed up world?

It's never been more close to falling apart completely.

Hate to be a pessimist...but...
When i read your post i thought, "well, no, it was just as bad but in a different way when i was growing up in the 50s and 60s..." but then i thought about it a bit more and realize that yeah, you are probably right. It is scarier these days.
It's not. You are just older. When you were growing up, you were not aware of all the problems in the world, and even if you were, your young age kept cynicism at bay. Every generation thought the world was going down the shitter, but actually, it's going better and better. Do you really think we are than during the Cold War? The World Wars? Napoleon's age? Medieval times? You are letting your perception color your judgment.
 
I'll probably be older, fatter and angrier.
Being angry is such a hassle when you are old and fat. Drolling in front of the tv is much easier.

That machine is EVIL. Evil incarnate. Why do we need such a thing? :eek:
This is a joke, right?

If I was starting today, I would not have kids. Why bring kids into such a messed up world?

It's never been more close to falling apart completely.

Hate to be a pessimist...but...
When i read your post i thought, "well, no, it was just as bad but in a different way when i was growing up in the 50s and 60s..." but then i thought about it a bit more and realize that yeah, you are probably right. It is scarier these days.
It's not. You are just older. When you were growing up, you were not aware of all the problems in the world, and even if you were, your young age kept cynicism at bay. Every generation thought the world was going down the shitter, but actually, it's going better and better. Do you really think we are than during the Cold War? The World Wars? Napoleon's age? Medieval times? You are letting your perception color your judgment.


Ehhhh im not so sure about that. These days so many more countries are capable of mass destruction. When i was growing up it was pretty much us and Russia.

Anyway, not sure this is a topic for discussion appropriate in this thread.

BTW, only just this morning i was watching some of the 50s/60s instructional videos on Youtube, and in particular the one about how one should duck and cover in case of an atomic blast! Boy am i grateful those school desks were bomb proof! :lol:
 
Ehhhh im not so sure about that. These days so many more countries are capable of mass destruction. When i was growing up it was pretty much us and Russia.

Anyway, not sure this is a topic for discussion appropriate in this thread.
Maybe. I don't want to derail the thread. However, the state of the world will have an impact on wherever we will be in 20 years. Before the age of the Bomb (capital B), dreadnoughts and artillery guns were the weapons of mass destruction of the day, and lots of countries had them. Actually, most of them. Having just two superpowers during the Cold War was just a brief spell in a world that has always had multiple great powers struggling for dominance.
 
Words clearly spoken by people who have NOT had teenage girls yet.......:lol:

If I was starting today, I would not have kids. Why bring kids into such a messed up world?

It's never been more close to falling apart completely.

Hate to be a pessimist...but...

When i read your post i thought, "well, no, it was just as bad but in a different way when i was growing up in the 50s and 60s..." but then i thought about it a bit more and realize that yeah, you are probably right. It is scarier these days. BUT i think we have to have the "Star Trek" attitude that there is hope for the future. *crossing fingers*

I know, Randi...hoping that too. I worry about the world my kids are going to have to live in.

But anyway...don't want to be too dreary...lol!
 
Ehhhh im not so sure about that. These days so many more countries are capable of mass destruction. When i was growing up it was pretty much us and Russia.

Actually, it depends how you define "mass." In fact, many countries could (and can) develop and deploy conventional weaponry capable of defoliating large areas of forest, rendering large areas uninhabitable, and killing tens of thousands of people. Then add biological weapons, etc. And you very likely had smaller powers capable of killing hundreds of thousands of people, although in a less "superpower" fashion than launching missiles from silos at home. They would have to get their hands dirty.

Even now, only the USA and Russia have "doomsday arsenals" that can destroy most life on the globe. The smaller arsenals in Western Europe, Asia, etc. can kill perhaps hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, but do not compare to the US and Russia. So more countries have access to "superpower" arsenals, but the potential for "megadeaths" (not the band ;) ) was always there, and the "doomsday arsenals" are still in the same hands.

Anyway, not sure this is a topic for discussion appropriate in this thread.

What could be more appropriate to a thread on where you'll be in 20 years, then speculation if the human race will finally destroy itself once and for all? ;)

BTW, only just this morning i was watching some of the 50s/60s instructional videos on Youtube, and in particular the one about how one should duck and cover in case of an atomic blast! Boy am i grateful those school desks were bomb proof! :lol:

If you check out the Prelanger Archive, you can find all sorts of older public domain instructional videos and movies, from the 30s through the 70s. Great stuff! Many of those on fitting into society are pretty amazing—really indoctrinated male chauvinism, etc. Watching some of those right wing movies about pornography is really the most awesome things in the world. Some of what passed for pornography in 1950s is now safe to show to children! ;)

But I tend to think humanity will keep trucking on. We'll remain at the brink always, I think. Partly because with few exceptions humanity is dominated by selfish and greedy creatures who only look out for their own own short-term gain. But also because humans tend to be at their best when things are at their worst.

So I don't think we'll ever really go through with destroying ourselves completely, although I do think we'll push our environment past the point of no return, but I don't think that's going to happen in the next twenty years. So I guess in some ways, I do buy Gene Roddenberry's vision that we'll make it. :) Although I think that in the real future, religion will be just as ubiquitous as it is now.
 
I worry about the world my kids are going to have to live in.

The wife and I don't have kids yet, but they're definitely in the plan. And this is something I think about myself.

On the one hand, any life we bring into this world will be doomed to live in a cruel, shallow, greedy, self-destructive, and oppressive world. Given the world as it is, wouldn't it be selfish to condemn another living soul to the Hell that is our world?.

But on the other hand, the only way that things will get better is if good people use their talents and abilities to "make it so" (to quote an Enterprise captain...). My wife and I are moral, intelligent, kind, etc. So who's to say that our children won't carry some of that with them, and help participate making this world less of the Hell it currently is? If they are, then wouldn't it in fact be incredibly selfish to deny this world one or more new souls that would help change it for the better?

Given these two options, I think the more "Roddenberry-ian" philosophy is to go with the optimism, and plan on having kids. ;)
 
If you would've asked me this 20 years ago, I probably wouldn't have said "watching and talking about Star Trek."

But here I am.

And now you ask what I'll be doing 20 years from now? Watching and talking about Star Trek. And being happy doing it.
 
I'll be approaching my 80th birthday, hopefully still relatively healthy and active. If not, maybe I'll hang my UFP flag over my bed in the nursing home.
 
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