The ONLY thing I'm interested in are the deleted scenes. The rest is just so much regurgitation. I just watched a ton of extras on my DS9 dvd's, so much bullshit much of it.
"Oh I loved working with him.."
::yawn::
Is it true that Paramount is going to shaft us on the DVD extras?
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The ONLY thing I'm interested in are the deleted scenes. The rest is just so much regurgitation. I just watched a ton of extras on my DS9 dvd's, so much bullshit much of it.
"Oh I loved working with him.."
::yawn::
For what it's worth, most of the reviews of the behind the scenes docs are very positive. A lot have said these are actually interesting to watch.
And on a side note, Blu-Ray.com pretty much said that the BD is probably the best BD on the market now in terms of audio and visual quality.
I've watched all the ones on the DVD. I don't actually remember any of them but I do remember the deleted scenes.
I don't even know what Blu-ray is. I have not been paying attention.
I don't even know what Blu-ray is. I have not been paying attention.
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Blu-ray is the next generation format for audio and video multimedia. It looks like a DVD, but can hold 5x more information. Movies on Blu-ray are in High Definition format. High Definition is considered 720p (near) and 1080p (full). Those numbers essentially say how many pixels (picture elements, better known as the colored dots) are on your screen. The higher the number, the better the picture quality.
What this means is that with Blu-ray, everything looks way sharper and clearer, sounds sharper and clearer, and you can cram a bunch more stuff onto the disc than you could on a DVD. It requires a Blu-ray player, but those also play standard DVDs and even make them look better, even though they can't actually increase the resolution (those dots again), they do a little sleight of hand to make the picture nicer. Of course, to even see this you have to have a high definition television, either 720p or 1080p (the dots once more).
J.
huh.. well thank you for the synopsis. I only got a dvd player 6 years ago (!). I saw a few blu-ray dvd's for 80.00 here, for one movie.. this being Australia I will wait a good while until I invest. I have just about completed my Trek on DVD collection, sigh.
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I buy my Blu-ray discs on Amazon.com. I've mentioned this before, but I bought 10 Blu-ray movies for $60. Good titles, too: Serenity, Twister, Starship Troopers, Night At The Museum, Fifth Element and so on.
J.
Half-right. DVD is a mainstream/mass-market product, where special features aren't as highly valued as low cost. Blu-Ray is a premium/enthusiast product, where extra features are valued (and the enthusiast consumers will pay a premium for extra content). HD itself is a premium content. It's not technical, you can cram a lot of stuff onto DVD, it's economics and marketing.
Basically, Blu-Ray is and may always be the premium product, while DVD is and will continue to be the unleaded edition.
video formats
I'll help you out for the next 10-15 years. Read these two links below.
consumer video formats - Super Hi-Vision (SHV), also known as Ultra High Definition (UHD), Ultra High Definition Video (UHDV),
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2961124&postcount=12
consumers and technology
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2984919&postcount=51
It came out in 2003.
I'll help you out for the next 10-15 years. Read these two links below.
consumer video formats - Super Hi-Vision (SHV), also known as Ultra High Definition (UHD), Ultra High Definition Video (UHDV),
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2961124&postcount=12
consumers and technology
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2984919&postcount=51
You know, after buying DVDs for 08 years now, I've come to one definitive conclusion:
I don't care about extras.
At first I'd watch them once when I first got a particular DVD, but these days I don't even bother. Hell, most of the time now I just buy the "vanilla editions" of DVDs. Although with XI I might get the deluxe edition since I am kind of interested in the deleted Klingon scene.
I don't care about extras.
At first I'd watch them once when I first got a particular DVD, but these days I don't even bother. Hell, most of the time now I just buy the "vanilla editions" of DVDs. Although with XI I might get the deluxe edition since I am kind of interested in the deleted Klingon scene.
The Blu-ray section at my local Best Buy is slowly but surely consuming the DVD section. Every few months BD gets a new shelf section and DVD loses one.
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Re: video formats
Interesting, but Blu-ray's still the next generation up from DVD.
J.
Interesting, but Blu-ray's still the next generation up from DVD.
J.
Well, "always" is a dangerous thing to say.
Once upon a time, there were "premium pressings" and "mass-market pressings" on vinyl records. And REAL audiophiles could actually buy dubs onto reel-to-reel tape.
When cassettes were all the rage, you had "regular tapes," but you could also get your tapes on Chromium Oxide, or even better, "Metal" tape, which was far more pricey but gave much better sound.
CDs came out, and it was a holy war between those who argued that you'd lose some elements of the music (which is true, but almost entirely in ranges which are undetectable by mere mortal humans) and those who claimed that CDs were literally unbreakable and "permanent."
VHS and Beta... I'm sure some of us remember that. Beta was better, but VHS was cheaper to produce.
Anyone still have some laserdiscs?
Everytime one of these came along, it was going to be that way "forever." Most of them aren't even able to be played anymore. God help you if you invested in 8-track...
I fully expect blu-ray to be the "standard" within two years, and conventional DVD to be entirely phased out. The good thing is that this won't invalidate your existing library... you can still play DVDs on blu-ray players, and you can still play CDs on blu-ray players for that matter.
The whole point of blu-ray is very simple... you have a different frequency of laser, which permits reading (and, in some cases, writing) of data at much finer resolutions than the traditional "red laser" used in CD and DVD players. This frequency is, of course, in the "blue" color range, hence the name of the techology. ("High Definition DVD" was also a blue-laser technology, by the way... the difference was mainly in terms of how the disks are manufactured and how data is arranged on the disk.)
So, they crammed more data onto a disk using a blue laser rather than a red laser. This also required more precise bearings, a more accurate stepper motor for moving the read (or read/write) laser head in and out, and a more accurate servo motor for spinning the disk.
Every time somebody increases the storage limit, it takes very little time before it becomes commonplace to use that storage fully. Remember when "nobody will ever be able to fill up a 250MB hard drive?" Remember when a 1GB hard drive was considered "overkill?" I do.
So, I have no doubt that research will continue... more accurate spindle systems will be developed, and the wavelength of the laser will continue to be shrunk until the laser is well out of the range of visible light entirely. And I would be shocked if it took another five years before we see the next technology emerge (although it won't be ADOPTED as mainstream for a little while longer).
At some point someone's going to have to break the "disk" cycle, however. And flash memory isn't ever going to do it... it's simply not acceptable as an archival storage method. I suspect that the ongoing (with limited success) research into 3D-data-matrix "holographic memory" will be the inevitable next step. Can't picture it? Think of the glass blocks from the HAL core in 2001...
I agree to an extent. About the only extras I've enjoyed are those on the classic Dr. Who dvds. New shows, the extras seem so much blah, as was noted about DS9 above.
Not quite. Blu-ray is the newer version and as such, it seems better, until the next big thing comes along.
DVD supplanted VHS and now Blu-ray is in the process of supplanting/trying to supplant DVD.
It's not a matter of premium vs. cheap. It's a matter of not paying for the same damned product (movie) a THIRD FUCKING TIME. (rant not directed at you, but the industry in general.)
I just got rid of my VHS tapes. Don't ask what they cost. I bought the 2-DVD per pack Star Trek eps when they came out. I am NOT paying for a third time for the same stuff.
Besides, who wants to see the actors' pores?
When it comes to TOS, I'm sticking with my Remastered DVDs, and the unremastered DVD season box sets.
The show was created for Standard Definition TVs, and I think that's the format that suits it best.
For my Trek Movie collection, I have the 2 Disk DVD copies, and will upgrade as and when I move to Blu-Ray.
For now, I aim to get Star Trek (2009) on DVD (and go for the Target Enterprise model with the disks in the saucer), or move to Blu-Ray and get the Best Buy set with the badges.
It depends on finances.
If money wasn't an object, I'd get a good 1080p TV, a Blu-Ray player and the movie on Blu-Ray.
Otherwise, my existing TV is still in good working order, and I get a decent enough picture for DVDs, so the 2 disk DVD set would work out.
The show was created for Standard Definition TVs, and I think that's the format that suits it best.
For my Trek Movie collection, I have the 2 Disk DVD copies, and will upgrade as and when I move to Blu-Ray.
For now, I aim to get Star Trek (2009) on DVD (and go for the Target Enterprise model with the disks in the saucer), or move to Blu-Ray and get the Best Buy set with the badges.
It depends on finances.
If money wasn't an object, I'd get a good 1080p TV, a Blu-Ray player and the movie on Blu-Ray.
Otherwise, my existing TV is still in good working order, and I get a decent enough picture for DVDs, so the 2 disk DVD set would work out.
Just give me what I didn't see, and I will sleep soundly with visions of the new Enterprise at Titan running through my head...and Klingons vs. Nero, etc. Everything else on DVD is gravy, fine.
THIS JUST IN! Paramount will release the following next year:
Star Trek: The Extra Special Director's Edition (DVD)
Star Trek: The Ultimate Edition (DVD/blu-ray combo)
Star Trek: The Ultimate Coolest Spectacular Special Collector's Director's Universe Edition (VHS, laserdisc, DVD, and blu-ray gift pack)
Star Trek: The Extra Special Director's Edition (DVD)
Star Trek: The Ultimate Edition (DVD/blu-ray combo)
Star Trek: The Ultimate Coolest Spectacular Special Collector's Director's Universe Edition (VHS, laserdisc, DVD, and blu-ray gift pack)
Is that the same as the Superawesome Ultra Ultimate Megatrek Fan Specialty Collection?
The Ultimate Coolest Spectacular Special Collector's Director's Universe Edition has an extra disc and five more audio commentaries on the DVD and blu-ray.Is that the same as the Superawesome Ultra Ultimate Megatrek Fan Specialty Collection?
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