Enterprise Novels

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Well, what we saw in "These are the Voyages" was a historical reconstruction, devised decades after the fact, and probably originally based on second and thirdhand data. Hell, they even got the date wrong (Riker's simulation is set in 2161; seven years after the "Terra Prime" incident, and after the Romulan War).

I find it fully possible that it's what Riker believes happened.

That's the only way I can choke it down.

Or you can think of TATV as an alternate universe episode. Considering that absolutely EVERYTHING looked completely off in that episode, simply declaring it AU would have been entirely reasonable, IMO.

I'm such a Trek Omnivore and to my chagrin I have ended up loving all sorts of Trek things I hated first time round.. Vic Fontaine comes to mind here. When I watched TATV the second time following my second all-the-way-through viewing of ENT I fully expected to like it because I seem to warm up to everything. I hated it SO MUCH.. even more than the first viewing. It is really a complete piece of crap.

And as this thread points out, easy to dismiss because it's from Riker's perspective, limited by history and who-knows-what. And the novels do in fact tweak some of what happened with good explanations as to the tweaking.. but how much better to have just skipped it.

 

[Tino]

Here's another fan of the TV series and of the books that follow our heroes into their fifth year. Can't wait for "The Romulan War - Beneath The Raptor's Wing".

And the way "The Good That Men Do" dealt with "These Are The Voyages" was quiet alright. I just hope Trip joins the Enterprise soon.

 

[Mach5]

I just hope Trip joins the Enterprise soon.

Spoiler: ENT relaunch

Judging from "Last Full Measure," Trip never returns to NX-01, nor he ever reclaims his real identity.

 

[David cgc]

I always assumed that part of the in-universe reason that the circumstances of Trip's "death" were moved up was that he would, in fact, return to the crew at some point, and only have to abandon his identity permanently in '61, and they'd just reuse the fake death they already made.

Of course, it's also possible that they just wanted to undo his blowing-self-up maneuver as quickly as possible, and waiting until the books got '61 wasn't practical. I mean, in hindsight, they could've kept using Trip indefinitely before they even got to '61, and they wouldn't ever need to undo his death to keep the family together.

Just for clarity's sake, I haven't finished "The Romulan War" yet, so don't take any of that as a spoiler.

 

[Saul]

I think
The Good That Men Do
Kobayashi Maru
The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing

Are required reading. I don't think you need to read "Last full measure" as it's only one chapter at the end that hints at future events and it's the only real link to the current story.

 

[Columbia]

I think
The Good That Men Do
Kobayashi Maru
The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing

Are required reading. I don't think you need to read "Last full measure" as it's only one chapter at the end that hints at future events and it's the only real link to the current story.

Is there any word on the future of Enterprise? I didn't see it on the 2010 schedule TrekMovie released.

 

[Christopher]

^Probably it'll have a book in 2011. 2010 is dominated by TOS and the Abramsverse to tie in to the new movie, so some things have to give.

 

[Columbia]

Thank you.

I wonder why the TOS novels weren't scheduled for this year, not next. Maybe Paramount was worried about confusing new readers?

 

[Christopher]

Paramount (or CBS) doesn't determine the novel schedule. It's the editor at Pocket who makes those decisions.

 

[Captain59]

I just hope Trip joins the Enterprise soon.

Spoiler: ENT relaunch

Judging from "Last Full Measure," Trip never returns to NX-01, nor he ever reclaims his real identity.

Spoiler: Reply to former spoiler comment

That's the one thing I don't like about Last Full Measure. I wish they didn't jump ahead like that. I want Trip to return to Earth, assume his real idenity, and get back together with T'Pol. Now that doesn't seem like it will happen.

 

[Steve Roby]

Spoiler: Reply to former spoiler comment

That's the one thing I don't like about Last Full Measure. I wish they didn't jump ahead like that. I want Trip to return to Earth, assume his real idenity, and get back together with T'Pol. Now that doesn't seem like it will happen.

Spoiler: well... not much, really

"These Are the Voyages" may not establish what actually happened, because it features a holodeck recreation of events rather than the events themselves, but it does establish in canon the fact that according to the official historical record Trip was believed to be dead. Doesn't mean he can't be alive, but it does mean that returning to his normal life under his own name is very, very unlikely.

 

[Captain59]

Spoiler: Reply to former spoiler comment

That's the one thing I don't like about Last Full Measure. I wish they didn't jump ahead like that. I want Trip to return to Earth, assume his real idenity, and get back together with T'Pol. Now that doesn't seem like it will happen.

Spoiler: well... not much, really

"These Are the Voyages" may not establish what actually happened, because it features a holodeck recreation of events rather than the events themselves, but it does establish in canon the fact that according to the official historical record Trip was believed to be dead. Doesn't mean he can't be alive, but it does mean that returning to his normal life under his own name is very, very unlikely.

That's a very good point, unfortunately.

 

[Sci]

Thank you.

I wonder why the TOS novels weren't scheduled for this year, not next. Maybe Paramount was worried about confusing new readers?

The folks at Pocket Books kept 2008 and most of 2009 clear of TOS to avoid stepping on the filmmaker's toes, and tried to have the Destiny trilogy and a reference book called Star Trek 101 out in time for the movie, but the movie was originally scheduled for December 2008; when the movie was moved to May 2009, they couldn't delay those books.

Meanwhile, there was no interest from bookstores in ordering any "Making of..." or other tie-in books in advance of the film (other than the novelization), because previous Trek films had flopped and no one wanted to have any mountains of Trek film merchandise that no one wanted to buy if the new one flopped.

Only once the new film became a hit was there any interest in non-fiction tie-ins, and only after the new film was released could the folks at Pocket Books start writing novels set in the new universe.

 

[Trekfan4387]

What does everyone think of the rest of the Enterprise novels? I just started reading them and plan to go through them in order...

I read "By the Book" (**/****). I'm currently about half-way through "What Price Honor", which I'm enjoying for the most part despite the wrong dates throughout.

I'm interested to hear everyone's (relatively spoiler-free) thoughts on:
-"Surak's Soul"
-"Daedelus"
-"Daedelus' Children"
-"Rosetta"

 

[Reanok]

What does everyone think of the rest of the Enterprise novels? I just started reading them and plan to go through them in order...

I read "By the Book" (**/****). I'm currently about half-way through "What Price Honor", which I'm enjoying for the most part despite the wrong dates throughout.

I'm interested to hear everyone's (relatively spoiler-free) thoughts on:
-"Surak's Soul"
-"Daedelus"
-"Daedelus' Children"
-"Rosetta"

I recently read Surak's soul I liked the book it was nice to see T'pol and Hoshi helping to help solve a mystery tofind out what hapened to the Oani why they died so suddenly. Daedalus&Daedalus' Children are okayThe Enterprise crew get caught in an Another universe and have to find a way to return home. Rosetta is well written and Hoshi gets alot to do in this story we get to see her dealing with the having to translate alien languages. Travis, Malcolm and Trip also help find some important information about a corrupt Alien leader after the Horizon was cheated from being paid for cargo it shipped for the alien leader.They find some important information that helps them solve a big mystery.The story takes place before Ina Mirror Darkly in saeason 4.

 

[Drizzt]

Is there any word on the future of Enterprise? I didn't see it on the 2010 schedule TrekMovie released.

I never saw if anyone replied definitively to this. I just got finished with "Raptor's Wing", and am understandably curious to know if there is at least a next book planned in this series? If anyone has any knowledge/info, please post. I checked all the usual sources (Memory Alpha, etc.) , but there doesn't seem to be anything planned as of yet.

 

[Christopher]

^No, there's nothing announced as yet. The plans are always well ahead of the public announcements. Heck, the very fact that BtRW was overtly structured as part one of a longer story tells you right up front that the plan is to do more than one, even if the next one hasn't been scheduled or solidified enough to announce to the public.

 

[Drizzt]

Yeah, I guess I should figure that if they are going to tackle as big a topic as the Romulan War, then they are going to have to do more than one book. But, I didn't know if it was one of those things where they had already given Martin the go-ahead to write 2 or 3 novels (or how ever many it will take), or if they had just had him write one, and then publish it, and gauge fan interest before deciding whether or not to continue the series.

I certainly hope it is the former, because, of all the "Trek" novels that I have read (and that is a TON), this one seemed to have a lot more depth, and a great deal of thought and research put into it by the author. It would be a shame if the series were not continued.

I just hope that they don't follow a similar publication schedule to the DS9 relaunch novels. Every time they release a new DS9 relaunch novel, I have to go back and re-read the previous books, or browse over some chapter summaries, because the length of time between releases is so long. But, I am not complaining. I mean, I am just grateful that the books are being published, period. If it weren't for the Trek books that are being put out on a somewhat regular basis (including ALL of them..TNG, DS9, VGR, ENT, Mirror/Myriad Universes, New Frontier, as well as the graphic novels like Mission's End, Crew, Ghosts, Fool's Gold), we wouldn't have any Trek content at all.

I just finished "Raptor's Wing", and I just picked up Titan "Synthesis" by James Swallow. I am trying to finish it up before I tackle the doorstop of a book that is "The Gathering Storm" by Robert Jordan & Brandon Sanderson.

BTW, thanks for the info, Chris. I think its the coolest thing in the world that we get to interact with the authors here on the BBS. You rock!

 

[Christopher]

I just hope that they don't follow a similar publication schedule to the DS9 relaunch novels.

How do you mean? There have been times when multiple DS9 novels have come out in consecutive months, and other times when there have been long gaps between them. Recently, there was an unplanned hiatus due to production delays, but that was an anomaly. No Trek book series has a fixed schedule. It's worked out on a year-by-year basis, and any series can have periods of greater or lesser activity.

 

[Guardian Bob]

Hopefully 'The Romulan War' sells good. Its a large books, so it will get noticed, and its called the freakin Romulan War, and I'm sure that will appeal to fans.